Long closet pole

Perhaps, instead, you should learn something about structural stability. If you had not slept through those classes, you'd know that no perturbation is required.

Mike

One definition of pertubation: 1. A small change in a physical system.

If you've ever seen an overloaded closet rod with a big sway in its back, you'd realize that people jam in as much clothes as the space will allow. The small change, like squeezing in some new purchases, doesn't set off a strain alarm.

The difference between you and Don Quixote is that the dear Don attacked the windmill and got slapped to the ground. You get smacked around defending the windmill's right to be a giant.

You defend the indefensible with half-understood sophistry, Nick. The sad thing is that you are a smart guy who can't differentiate between what he knows and what he thinks he knows. You are being instructed here. Learn, or not, as is your wont.

This presumes Michael was correct :-)

I say it's correct. Do you have any evidence to the contrary?

Nick

You are correct, in the quantum-mechanical sense, but don't hold your breath.

Nick

Yes, where you wrote this admitt> I see a reduction to about 27% for a 10' span with no lateral bracing on

Yep, that's some swift engineering. A 35% overestimation of the strength, and to you that's unimportant.

BTW, where are you getting your data for the maximum design load?

Quantum mechanics has nothing to do with it. Stop being such a twit. The requirements for bracing are based on solid structural engineering principles backed by considerable experimental and practical evidence. Load reduction requirements for reduced bracing are based on the same.

Mike

It's not going to matter how strong the closet rod is if there are only two brackets holding it up and they pull out of the wall.

Ms P

True, but I don't think that's the weak spot in the system...unless some Fred uses a couple or three plastic screw-in drywall anchors to hold up the bracket.

It's time to stop now. You seem hopelessly confused.

Nick

You've recommended a designed solution. It's impossible to calculate a solution without a design load. If you don't have a design load from empirical testing, or a standards organization which has conducted such testing, you made an assumption - a guess. A guessed at solution is neither designed nor a solution.

Where did you get your maximum design load for a fully loaded closet rod?

You're Captain Random's sidekick - Bucky the Boy Number. Maybe you should change your signature...

Mindless silly stuff when the solution handles more than any load is likely to be.

Okay, what's your _guess_ for the upper load range for a 10' closet pole?

Dont need one when the solution proposed can do better than any load is likely to ever be.

Gee, you say that as if it were a fact.

Mike

Michael Daly wrote

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys.

Is that an African or European closet pole?

I don't know that. ARGGGGHHH! ;)

You've already made your guess as indicated by "better than any load is likely to be", so please share. What's your guess for a likely load for the closet rod in question?

RicodJour wrote

No I didnt. If a particular solution could handle 10 tons, literally, even someone as stupid as you should realise that that will never be exceeded in real life.

Dont need one when the solution proposed can do better than any load is likely to ever be.