We're having a new door installed, but reusing an old lockset that was
replaced under warranty. (Finish failed).
At first the key for the replacement lock also worked in the new door/old
lock. But now it does not of course.
I took the pins out of the cylinder and no combo of pins seems to give me a
nice flush set of pins. I did notice that the pins seem to have some coating
on some of the ends. So I'm wondering if the lock had some sort of spacing
compound to rekey the lock?
Thanks for the replies. I'm not so concerned about the fixing as to why the
key worked when the door was first installed and not now.
Assuming the contractor did not change the pins (unlikely). Do the
locksmiths have some kind of leveling paste that they can use to cheat when
re-keying a lock?
A locksmith would use the right pins. Pins cost pennies. The cost of
labor for any paste would be far higher. And paste would cause a
reliability issue which damages the reputation of the locksmith.
Was the warranty replacement rekeyed?
If you don't get an answer here you could try alt.locksmithing - active
group with quite a few locksmiths.
Yes the same key originally did work on the new and old locks.
I had the cylinder apart and the pins don't look even close now. I bought
some spare pins for now, as it's about $100 to get a lock rekeyed here.
LOL, Toronto, but that includes the service call.
Although we did get quoted 12K to redo a (150 sf) flagstone walkway last
year. Also quoted 8K to install a 24K BTU mini split AC. Neither job got
done at those rates.
Just had 14 rekeyed at Ace day before yesterday. $5 each. But they DO have
to have the key that goes to the lock, and the lock has to be working. Took
all the knobs and deadbolts off myself, took them to Ace, and reinstalled
rekeyed mechanisms. I know a locksmith would have charged a bit more than
that to come out and do same.
The downside is that I spent about $200 at Ace on other "stuff".
Poorly. I've saved their posteriors a couple times. One time the
cylinder popped apart on the guy and he gave up and went to get another
set to start with, by the time he got back to the desk with it I had the
original one back together, keyed properly and working perfectly.
I was in Home Depot tonight buying some other crap, so I thought I would
pick up a rekey kit to change that lock, given that it mysteriously changed.
So I wondered around the 'key department' for about 10 minutes looking for
an associate. Then I went and stood in front of the lock desk for another 5
minutes waiting for something in Orange to show up. While awaiting, I
noticed a sign that said BOTH key cutting machines were broken. Finally I
spotted the rekey kits behind the counter and stepped behind the counter to
look at them. Gee, a helper was there in less than 15 seconds. Although they
did not have my brand and he was not willing to explain if any others were
So I wouldn't waste your time going to HD for keys.
Better off asking a kid who is riding by on a bicycle. My neighbor
needed a replacement lock. Their locks are keyed alike and he has all of
the information necessary for anyone who knows about locks to replicate
without even needing a key or measuring anything. He picks out a lockset
and asks for it to be keyed to his pattern. They tell him that they only
know how to rekey to a random pattern. He happened to call me about
something else and mentioned this. I suggested going to a real locksmith
and there was one almost across the street from his office. The real
locksmith took less than 5 minutes and he charged less than the big box
place wanted to do it randomly.
I'd suggest take the new lock, and the key you want to work. Open
the phone book and start calling locksmiths. See if you can find
one nearby, who makes sense on the phone. Ask for a price, and if
he can do it while you wait. Probably five minutes, and five to
Christopher A. Young
You can\'t shout down a troll.
Just curious... How compatible are rekey kits between brands.
Local store here has a boatload of nice, solid external knobs at a great
price. Unfortunately, the keys have no identifying marks, so there is no way
to grab three that share the same key.
The company name escapes me at the moment though. :( .... Forge?
Most of the brands of residential lock use .115 diameter pins.
However, different lengths of pin. If you're doing something
important like locking your house, I'd suggest a known brand like
Kwikset. Rather than a Taiwan off brand that has little track
Schlage changed their design of residential lock a couple years
ago. I think the new design is awful. I hate working on them. The
door knobs are miserable, and I don't think their 300 series
deadbolts have much strength.
Most locksmiths can rekey the knob locks for you. Change two
locks to match the third one.
Christopher A. Young
You can\'t shout down a troll.
I had some rekeying done at HD a couple of years ago. I actually had '2'
guys waiting on me. We shot the shit while they figured it out. They
don't get much call for it I guess. But I realize I was lucky everyone
(that day) was in a good mood, myself included.
I 'usually' can never get anyone to help me either. Must have been a
star alignment thing THAT day..
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