"LAS VEGAS -- Imagine turning on the cold water tap only to find the
temperature won't get lower than 90 degrees. One northwest valley
subdivision has tried for months to cool down their water, but it's
still running warm."
...temps at 90.4ºF...
Why is it blamed on well water and shallow pipes, if I get the drift
on this report?
Here, north of Phoenix, our well is 626 feet down, so water is nice cool
temp. BUT! comes to the surface and then is stored in an 'above ground'
tank ...in the sun. plus 300 ft shallow pipe to house plus pipes run in
the attic, albeit in the insulation still in the attic. So...often in the
summer's afternoon the cold water all by itself is too hot to shower in.
so why am I paying the utilities company more than $30 a month for the hot
Actually, I was pleaantly surprised that the very hard water tastes pretty
decent and even makes great coffee, compared to the city supplied water,
which lines the pot with sludge and makes the coffee taste like a dead
I stopped at Gila Bend, AZ in 1988. My wife thought the motel had put
the plumbing in backwards. Wanted a cool shower.
Cold water was about 110.
Tasted bad enough I wouldn't put it in my radiator. First time I ever
bought bottled water.
A ranger told me he had a tempering tank in his basement to cool it
down a bit. Not much need for a water heater.
In my working days I went to PHX a lot, often staying for months for new
product training in different seasons. Most dwellings there don't have
basement. plumbings are often exposed to outside.
Once in dead summer I took whole family down and we stayed at Hometel
then for 3 months. we lived by the pool side with free breakfast,
cocktails every day.
Wife and kids after returning home said no more trip to PHX in summer
Here in the east, your well pipes could freeze if not buried deep
enough. It is no surprise that pipes only buried a couple of inches in
the hot climate of Vegas would heat the water. Stupid contractors
should have known this.
Should be. I understand you reach a level where temperature is
constant, summer and winter. With geothermal you can use it to heat or
cool your house as needed.
As you know, in areas where it freezes building codes will give minimum
depths for water and sewer pipes. Here is is three feet and Tony says
where he is in Canada it is 8 feet. In Vegas couple of inches is OK.
My brother-in-law lives out there and I have never heard about water
being too hot so I assume his developer knew what he was doing to bury
pipes deep enough.
On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 15:56:37 -0400, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
What gets me is that they think a new house will be beter than an old
house. A lot of people just assume new is better.
Back in Brooklyn, I fixed things for money, and I was at a girl's dorm
room and she was complaining about the picture on her 12" tv. I said
that you live in a steel frame building, get a wire and connect it to
the antenna screws (and I showed her where they were) and put the other
end out the window. I came back a week later, and she'd bought
another tv, which worked no better. I told her again to get a wire for
a better antenna, and she gave me the old tv.
My sister and her husband (both yuppies)
had a gasoline power generator that
didn't run right. So, they went and bought
another, gave me the old one. I cheerfully
load it in my truck and drove off with it.
Didn't even try to start it onsite.
Problem: Low on oil, and the oil level safety
switch was doing its assigned job. Add four
ounces of oil, and machine runs fine.
On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 08:30:44 -0400, Stormin Mormon
I should have said that I had tried but failed to fix her sewing
machine. I said no charge, but she still felt like giving me the tv,
which worked fine when I got home. What she thought of as old, 5
years?, I thought of as new. Old would be 20 years.
Subsurface temperature in a particular area is the mean yearly surface air
temperature (e.g. in central wisconsin, cave temperatures are around
One would assume that the mean temperature is much greater in
The further down one goes, the warmer it gets :-)
Citation: Smerdon, J. E., H. N. Pollack, V. Cermak, J. W. Enz, M. Kresl, J. Safanda, and J. F. Wehmiller (2006), Daily, seasonal, and
annual relationships between air and subsurface temperatures, J. Geophys. Res., 111, D07101, doi:10.1029/2004JD005578.
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