I have no knowledge specifically, but timers go bad on dishwashers
fairly regularly and could cause overfilling (by failing to tell an
inlet solenoid to shut off the water), or the solenoid itself could
have failed in the open position. The solenoid might be where I
check first, because I'm not sure how a timer could be implicated in a
screeching noise, but I could envision perhaps a solenoid being stuck
in a position such that it would make noise with water going through
These are wild assed guesses based on limited knowledge of the
components involved--hopefully you'll get a better answer.
Three Kenmore washers I am familiar with (our personal one has been repaired
a few times and is about 25 years old)have the water level shut off valve
inside the control panel that operates by air pressure once the water has
filled to the adjusted level!
As the water rises in the tub of the machine it pushes air up a hose
connected to an air-valve/switch.
When the pressure 'equalizes' at the preset water level the valve/switch
clicks, filling stops and the timer switch continues to the next step in the
What occurs to me is that if that hose is cracked, leaky or has become
disconnected (or too short) the air pressure would never increase and the
water filling could continue for ever?
Just by way of illustration; some time ago after doing some servicing on our
Kenmore I noticed that the water was not filling up to quite the same level.
I've been told it is fairly easy to damage these water
level/pressure/switches. You don't go cranking the small adjustment screw
several turns at a time and don't blow hard into the pipe; they are designed
to work at no more than gentle atmospheric pressure! Anyway I had to
carefully, a small amount at time, adjust the valve/switch setting to get
the water to fill another inch or so to the desired level.
Occasionally it has also seemed to me that when barometric pressure is low
(bad weather) the water level appears to be a tad higher; but that may just
be my imagination! I guess if you hauled a washer up to the top of a
mountain one would have to adjust the valve/switch to a lower pressure for
I've got a spare used switch somewhere which I could mail you; but I'd check
Anybody else agree/disagree?
As opposed to time he was paid by someone. As opposed to clerks at
stores who are paid to answer questions, even stupid questions by
people who don't say whether they're talking about a dishwasher or a
No. I'm just a guy who doesn't like jerks. I give you the
slightest bit of sarcasm. "Good move, FH" and instead of apologizing
to Todd for wasting his time, or at least including a " :-( " in your
reply, you spend two posts arguing with me.
You should be thanking me for trying to teach you how to post a
question. Experience has shown me that if you leave out a critical
fact, the same people who answered you the first time are quite likely
not to bother replying when you add something later. And I understand
that. They feel like they wasted their time the first time, and for
most, it drains their desire to answer again. I usually feel the
And you should be thanking me because there's a bigger possible
benefit to you. To learn to examine in advance everything you say
and do to see if you are acting or speaking based on a
misunderstanding, either your own or someone else's. So when your
boss gives you an assignment, you won't work on it for 6 weeks only to
find out that you're working on the wrong thing, that you
misunderstood what he was talking about, or he failed to specify what
he was talking about. And you'll be six weeks behind on your work,
and you'll blame the boss and that will do you no good at all.
That's only one of a thousand places where it will do you good to
learn to be specific in speaking and listening.
Remove NOPSAM to email me. Please let
me know if you have posted also.
Rule #10 from The Eternal Laws of Usenet:
You, personally, are a unique, exciting, vibrant, intelligent, wise, and
self effacing individual with a great deal to contribute to the
newsgroups you select on the Net. So is every other schmuck who posts.
Get over it.
Sounds like a personal problem.
Well Mr. self appointed hall monitor of perfection, one man's slight
sarcasm is another's rude, condescending cheap shot. How one reacts to
a request for help speaks volumes about character but (IME), character
always takes a back seat when fragile ego's spot an opportunity to be
stroked at someone else's expense.
If I look in the dictionary will I see your picture next to the
definition of narcissist?
What a wonderful world it would be if everyone could simply learn from
*your* experiences. Of course it wouldn't be as much fun that way would
it? For you, I mean. ;)
Anyone ever point out to you that you use the word *I* a lot? And how
did we get from a simple question about a Kenmore washer to how you *feel*?
Wow! All this help without so much as a prayer on my part. The spirit
of Thanksgiving is still in the air. Here's a clue for you Mr.
Know-it-all. Most educated and experienced people make a point of
avoiding those who begin sentences with "you should" "you never" "you
always" etc.. Capisce?
My God you do jump to conclusions. It was a simple *omission*. For
your information, I'm retired. I ran my own business for over 25 years.
I *was* the boss, and I've fired more than a few smart asses like you.
Why do you suppose I think listening is not your long suit?
If you were *really* into efficiency and helping you would have simply
asked "hey, is it a dishwasher or a cloths washer?" And if your as
honest as you are perfectionist you would recognize that this whole
bundle of advice is simply about you.
Eternal Laws of Usenet #8:
8. If you hate or love something, there is a newsgroup where people are
discussing it. Abortion, Republicans, eating meat, tattooing, worship,
bondage, whatever. You will be tempted to appear on that newsgroup and
point out to everyone the error of their ways. Please keep in mind that
you are the 4,000th person to do so.
Does it keep filling, even when you unplug it from the wall. If so, it
is probably the water intake valve (might not be the correct name, but
it's the control that the supply hoses from the household plumbing
You can test the air pressure thing as well as the intake valves,
procedures in the fix-it books at the local library.
The moment read 'Kennmore' assumed it was a 'Kenmore clothes washer'!
So is it;
a) 'Clothes-washer'? Or b) 'Dish-washer'?
If it's dishwasher it MIGHT be as simple as the water over-level float
switch clogged/gummed up with food residue! But in our case water filling
time depends on the 'timer switch' contacts.
Neither an overfill float switch or an electrically operated water inlet
valve sound like they would be likely to be 'screechy' noisy!
I agree with Todd H that the timer switch, is, (if it's DISH WASHER!) a
Cost of timer switches here can vary from $25 to $75. Replacement can vary
from an easy to mount and plug in, to dealing with up to 15 individual wire
connections! And have found that a new supposedly 'original/replacement' one
can be slightly different, such as having extra contacts for another feature
that our machine is not equipped for!
Depending how electrically and mechanically competent one is (and willing to
spend personal 'do it yourself' time versus cost) it MAY be possible to
repair, say the contacts, or drive motor/gearing of such a timer for it to
last for a few more years/months!
As a retiree I have lotsa time, especially to save money! If it is, say, a
$50 timer and an hour or so of personal time, seems a wasteful shame to
replace a machine if it otherwise looks/works OK?
On other hand I have relatives, coples who each work 60 hours a week, have
family and/or traveling responsibilities and so do not have the time, skills
or inclination to do such a repair themsleves.
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