This is obviously the Real Deal for gasoline storage:
But these guys http://tinyurl.com/k5owomy look virtually identical, even
down to the numbers stamped on the handle and the interior coating.
They come with the admonition "For non-potable water only" and the web
page specifically cautions that federal law prohibits storage of
gasoline in them.
Does anybody know what, besides color, the diff is?
And what's the difference with these - other than the price.
Can't take credit for finding this site; someone else posted it in
reference to the thread on the idiots in Washington making everyone's
lives miserable by screwing around trying to improve gasoline storage
Thinking of picking up four of these myself. For less than the price of
two of those from Amazon that ARE legit for fuel storage, I'll get four.
Pick a color, any color<g>
On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 18:33:05 -0500, Unquestionably Confused wrote:
I have to say the problem with the "idiots" (most of whom are actually
in California), isn't that they screwed around with the can storage
(it actually stores gasoline rather well).
The containers meet the required spec that the gasoline stays *in* the
can; it's just that they never specified how (easily) the gas should
come *out* of the can.
The cans only meet 1/2 the consumer spec.
Just that and that they don't include an EPA-compliant spout which is
why they're non-compliant and must have the disclaimer. I don't know
how long the blatant subterfuge will last before somebody in charge gets
their hackles up but power to 'em as long as they can.
Me, I've got a supply of about 20 old 5-gal metal screw-top cans from
hydraulic oil, grease and various other products from the years before
the plastic switch and then the EPA. They'll outlast me so I'm
set...the collection may be one of the most valuable assets in the
estate auction, who knows??? :)
The difference is vapor containment system. That is, the "water" ones don't
have any. The "water" cans and their spouts are the very same ones that
were sold for gasoline use before the EPA changed the regulations.
You'll note that California prohibits the sale of those cans to CA
residents. That's because the bureaucrats and activists know full-well that
people are going to buy the "water" cans and put gasoline in them, just
like they used to.
Hey guys, suck it up. You voted for those idiots. TWICE.
The sealing looks identical to me: same gasket, same cam-operated cap.
I guess I should pour a cupful of gas into the suspect one, seal it,
leave it in the sun for a few hours, and then crack to cap to see of
there's an audible sound of vapor release.
On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 19:50:07 -0600, Tony Hwang wrote:
It's not a safety issue.
It's (mostly) a pollution issue.
That's why the California air resource board (CARB) is
the one who makes the specs.
Both cans (old and new) are as safe (well, except for the
child safety stuff that we all just cut off upon receipt).
Actually, we all spill more gas with the newer spouts, so,
I'd argue they're even less safe than the older ones.
On Sun, 23 Jun 2013 10:10:23 -0400, Mike Homes wrote:
After reading that nice explanation, I've come to realize that there
must be *three* kinds of sparks we'd be concerned with (for gasoline)
(only two of which were covered in that Canadian OSHA article):
1. Sparks created *by the tool* (e.g., hammering concrete); and,
2. Sparks created chemically (e.g., hammering rust); and,
3. Sparks created elsewhere (e.g., static buildup) given *to the tool*.
From that description, a non-sparking brass is actually a low-incendive
metal with respect to the first type only, it appears.
So, for example, if you were to strike a steel hammer against
concrete, you'd get a high-incendive sparks; whereas if your
hammer were made of low-sparking brass, you'd get (I guess) less
The problem I see with low-incendive brass is that it still carries
electrical current; so, it seems (to me) do to nothing to prevent
ignition by static-electricity, which is likely a large cause of
portable gasoline can fires.
(Actually pouring gasoline on a BBQ is probably the biggest cause
of gasoline related fires!).
On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 21:20:32 -0400, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
When I had called the CARB 800-242-4450, I spoke to Angus 916-445-4686
about gasoline cans; he told me they *weigh* them after a period of
something like 120 days (I had posted at the time the exact spec)
and they can't lose anything. There is also an accelerated test.
Interestingly, he said there is a spec for a can with a second opening,
but, that none of the six companies approved for California sales has
ever submitted a can for certification that has that second opening
(i.e., a vent).
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