Is it possible to properly install ice and water shield up a wall without removing siding?

Jun 19, 2015 24 Replies

I agree it's very possible that you can't get it successfully installed under existing siding, without removing at least the bottom siding. But since the problem here is ice damming, to apply ice shield to the roof deck and not have it extend 4 - 6" up the walls is a recipe for doing the whole job over. If water backs up, it's going to get in at the wall.

I think a big part of the problem here is the same as in the thread with the poster that had laminate floor installed and they didn't take care of where it meets the wall because the concrete was irregular. She was proposing to get the same contractor back to try to deal with it. Big mistake. What she needs is a finish carpenter. And here what the condo board should do is get some carpenters to quote on dealing with removing/replacing the siding. The roofers get set in their ways, and want to half-ass their way out of dealing with siding. If I were the roofing contractor, I'd either learn how to do the siding, or else have a carpenter buddy to sub out that part of the job.

Another common problem here is that typical condo board is folks with little or no experience in anything, so they get hosed all the time.

Well, the roofer had a mini-meltdown about my concerns today, but he did a gree to remove the siding, and put the ice shield up the wall, and new step flashing as well, and then he put the siding back. The siding doesn't loo k that great...looks scuffed up from removing it, but at least the roofing job was done right on the side wall, and it's the back of the house so the cosmetics of the siding isn't what matters most. I don't know why he made it sound like it was such a hassle. He probably was afraid it would crack and he would be on the hook for all new siding.

They did reuse the step flashing around the chimney and it looks strange to me around the wooden chimney, because you can now see some exposed pieces step flashing that you didn't used to see rather than just seeing shingles on the side of the chimney. The leak wasn't in the chimney area, it was on the side wall on the opposite side of that roof, so hoping there isn't goi ng to be a new problem.

I don't know why all the old step-flashing was nailed to walls rather than the deck of the roof. Looks like they did that for the new step flashing they installed today on the side as well, but if this holds up until they r edo all the roofs in the complex, I'll have hopefully moved out by then : )

...oh, and after the decision was made remove the siding fromt he side wall , he was planning on leaving the old step flashing in place as extra prote ction, and then put the ice and water shield on top of the old step flashin g, and then install the step-flashing, but he gave me the choice of removin g the old step-flashing first. Since I wasn't sure if it was a good idea to leave the old/bent step flashing in place and whether the ice shield would really stick to it, I elected to have him remove the old step-flashing. Would it have been better to leave it on?

ll, he was planning on leaving the old step flashing in place as extra pro tection, and then put the ice and water shield on top of the old step flash ing, and then install the step-flashing, but he gave me the choice of remov ing the old step-flashing first. Since I wasn't sure if it was a good idea to leave the old/bent step flashing in place and whether the ice shield wou ld really stick to it, I elected to have him remove the old step-flashing . Would it have been better to leave it on?

I would have removed the old step flashing too. Like you, I don't see any point in leaving it on. Those roofers sound like amateurs. You said the siding was scuffed up a bit, that's to be expected. A coat of paint should fix it.

trader_4 posted for all of us...

really stick to it, I elected to have him remove the old step-flashing. Would it have been better to leave it on?

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