The main heat pipe going through the basement from the boiler is
enclosed in a wood channel, but I can see that the pipe is wrapped in
what looks like white corrogated cardboard around an inch thick. When
I bought the house I did have to have the old boiler removed and it
was encased in asbestos.
Is there a boiler for heating hot water for radiators or a furnace heating hot air? You talk about the main heat pipe, do you mean a hot water pipe that goes to radiators in each room?? Too little information given!!
Sounds like it IS asbestos. But as long as it's solid and not flaking
off, it wont hurt anything. You could probably coat it with something
like FlexSeal. If it's encased, it cant hurt anything. Asbestos is
only harmful if it's in the air. As a solid substance, it cant hurt
anything. (Before you spray it with a sealer, make sure the sealer can
handle the heat, especially if you coat the ends, where the spray will
contact the bare pipe).
Sounds like it. There are miles of that stuff around in old boiler
rooms. The only problem you have is if you decide to remove it. I'm
not sure what present codes are, but you can be sure if is a PITA to
follow the law.
Left in place, it is not harmful at all. It can be painted to seal it
if it has not been already. You can touch is as skin contact is no
problem. The danger comes from inhaling the dust and fibers if you
I do recall some years ago a plumber was standing on a ladder with a
cigarette hanging out of his mouth while tearing away the asbestos
insulation on a pipe. No goggles, no dust mask. That would not happen
That's what old asbestos insulation around heating pipes typically looks
You said "boiler" -- do you have hot water heat or steam heat? And, I guess
that you still have radiators. If so, is it a one-pipe system or a two-pipe
system? And, after you had the old boiler removed, what was it replaced
with? -- steam heat, hot water heat, something else?
It sounds like the newer type of insulation. Asbestos
I've seen is more like tape. Either way, if it is asbostos
you'll be able to turn it to muck with water and should
be able to see the strands, like thin fiberglass.
If you want to remove it yourself, keep it wet while
scraping it all off and washing the pipe. Then the problem
is getting rid of it. :) I think the best idea is to cast it
in concrete, perhaps in your cellar floor. But I don't
know where, or if, that's legal to do. I once called the
Mass. state authorities to see if I could cut and remove
asbestos siding in order to install a window. They told me
I could do whatever I like, so long as I don't dispose of
the debris. That needs a special license, apparently. But
your state may be different. Disposing of any rubbish has
become a changing affair that varies by city and state.
On Saturday, January 10, 2015 at 6:27:14 PM UTC-5, philo wrote:
As long as it's stable, not falling off, not subject to kids knocking
into it, etc, I agree.
The only potential problem may come if he goes to sell the place some day.
Many states have laws, standard disclosure forms that have to be filled
out and it may need to be disclosed, which then may result it having to
deal with it then.
This is true. However, you can remove it without getting the dust in
the air as long as you soak it with water. Not just spray it, but
saturate it. Begin by wetting it with a hose, split it open on the TOP
of the pipe. Then let water run into the split for quite a while. Then
remove it and seal it on trash bags, dispose the bags, and wash the
pipes with water. Then thoroughly wash the floor wothj a hose and down
the floor drain.
This may not be legal, but it works. I've done it, while repairing a
section of pipe. The clue is to make sure no dry material is exposed.
It will absorb water and turns to a soggy mushy stuff that easily comes
off. (Of course this is for doing in a concrete basement, not in your
Asbestos siding is probably the safest form of asbestos as long as it's
not cut with a saw or grinder. The fibers are all embedded in whatever
they are made of. But how you manage to fill in the pieces around the
window, without sawing it, is beyond me..... Maybe a wet saw????
BTW: That was very durable and long lasting siding. But real tough to
install. I know if I had it on my house, I'd leave it. It sure beats
most of that plastic / vinyl siding crap they sell now.
| BTW: That was very durable and long lasting siding. But real tough to
| install. I know if I had it on my house, I'd leave it. It sure beats
| most of that plastic / vinyl siding crap they sell now.
Yes. The asbestos is still there. It's beginning
to breal down a bit on the surface where it gets
a lot of water exposure, but asie from that it's
fine. Guessing it was probably put up around 1965,
that's 50 years with virtually no maintenance.
On Sunday, January 11, 2015 at 10:54:10 AM UTC-5, Pico Rico wrote:
Funny, I was thinking of saying something like that about the suggestions to
cover it with some spray or something to help contain it. If left alone,
one doesn't have to say anything. Even a disclosure form probably asks
something like "does the house contain any known asbestos"? As of right now,
the OP doesn't know there is asbestos, he doesn't know what it is.
But if you spray it to contain it,
etc, it's going to look recent and then it's fairly obvious you knew
asbestos was there.
I am planning on selling the house in a few months, which is why I'm
asking about it. I still don't know if it is or isn't but any
compentent inspector will know so I'd like it gone in that case.
I knew the boiler was wrapped in it, but that was removed when I
bought the house. My inspector didn't mention it.
On Monday, January 12, 2015 at 8:47:27 AM UTC-5, dgk wrote:
I'd take a look at the questions on the required state real estate
disclosure form, if there is one. As I said before, where you're at
now, depending on the questions asked, you probably don't have to
disclose anything. Once you know there is asbestos, then you likely
do need to disclose it. And if there is a state standard/required
disclosure form, it may very well ask if asbestos was there, when it
was removed, how, etc. Just that it was there and removed recently
might cause some buyers to run.
Not saying what you should do one way or the other, just that I'd
look at what answers you have to supply as it may affect how you
want to proceed.
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