On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 23:25:47 +0000 (UTC), HerHusband
Does this door have a transom window above and/or side lights at the
door? Water can travel, even along an outside light that needs a
little caulk around the edge trim.
A picture of your trouble spots, perhaps?
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We have wind driven rain A LOT here on the coast of Maine and even the cheap
doors I bought a Homedepot do not leak even though I don't have them flashed
or the siding on yet...I think you need to talk to a pro and have him look
it over...No offense , but you obviously messed up something on the install
as everyone you did leaks......If it were just one in a specific location it
would be one thing but that is not the case...
Huh??? Every door I installed leaks? Where did you get your
information? I've only installed one steel entry door in my life. When
the wind blows the rain to the area where the weather striping touches
the steel door, it gets wicked in between the two and flows down and
runs both inside and outside. The door opens into the garage so the
water wicked between the door and the weather stripping is already on
the inside part of the jamb.
Now where are all the others I did?
Sorry for the brain fart , I was responding to the OP... Quote from the
"I have installed several prehung exterior steel entry doors over the last
few years, and virtually all of them have minor leaks somewhere around the
bottom. The first was the entry door to our garage, which has now rotted
and will need replacing this summer. Obviously, I don't want any other
doors to rot like the first one, or worse yet cause structural damage to
End quote....I should have said...To the OP...
No offense taken, but we built our own house, garage, several remodeling
projects at my in-laws, installed numerous windows, doors, etc. Installing
an entry door isn't exactly rocket science, and I've researched and
followed every recommended guideline I can find. I can't imagine a "pro"
would have done anything different than I did, and probably wouldn't have
taken the time to be as thorough.
It is something of a mystery, so I'm going to try tightening the latch up
this afternoon to see if that will help.
By the way, the water seeps in under the door sill on the subfloor. If you
already have a finished floor installed, you would probably never see it
If the water is coming in UNDER the threshhold, that is probably where
the problem is. Can't see your door from here, but I suspect improperly
installed flashing, or the threshold is sitting higher than you thought
and did not get bedded in the caulk. Sometimes you need to add something
to the sill of the rough opening. And how much drop is there from the
front edge of threshold to the porch surface outside? If it is less than
a couple of inches any 'sheeting' rain that get blown against door will
get in there. (A common problem when people add slate or faux brick to
an existing porch.)
Short of a remove and reinstall, you could always drill through the
threshold (in dry weather), and pump the cavity below full of silicone
sealant. Unless maybe some of the threshold trim is removable, and you
can get access that way.
Yep, makes sense... :)
What's strange is the leak is right in the middle of the door. Until
yesterday, the space on both sides of the door were open (to the interior)
and were completely dry. If the exterior flashing was incorrect, or the
caulking along the sides was failing, I would think the leak would tend to
come in along the sides. But, I know water can travel in strange paths
Yeah, unfortunately, without tearing things apart again I can't see it
either. I didn't take photos along the way because I didn't expect any
It's possible. Oddly, I left drainage on the outside, but sealed the
inside. In theory, any water getting in should drain out, but it's seeping
under the interior caulking instead. I verified the subfloor was level
before installing the door (actually had a very minor slope outwards).
That's what makes me think the water is coming in at the sides and running
down BEHIND the caulking I installed under the door.
About 4-5 inches right now. We will be rebuilding the front steps and
landing this summer when things dry out again and the new landing will be a
couple inches lower.
Thanks for the advice!
The 2 in the garage and the one in the basement I would and the one in the
kitchen was without trim or finished floor for quite a while as I was doing
it on just weekends when not working..Actually it was the kitchen door that
I had the leak in that I fixed by adjusting the strike as was recommended by
a carpenter I do alot of drywall work for..You know , one of those pro's
that do shit work and just rip folks off.......Like I said you have
something going on that we can't diagnosis without seeing it which is why I
said have a pro look at it....But if your already better at it than somebody
that does it DAILY and has to pay for damages caused by leaks than I guess
we are done here......Good Luck......
Relax... I never said I was an expert, just that I had more experience than
the average weekend handyman. I wouldn't be here asking questions if I had
all the answers. Obviously I'm overlooking something or the door wouldn't
be leaking. I make mistakes, I learn, I move on...
I adjusted the strike plate yesterday to get the door to seal a little
tighter to the weather stripping yesterday. We only work at my in-laws on
weekends since they live out of town, but I'm having them keep an eye out
for leaks. Naturally, it's not supposed to rain much this week. :)
There are a couple of small spots I want to recaulk, but I can't really do
that while it's raining heavily.
Sorry to offend, but thanks for the input!
On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 16:24:53 +0000 (UTC), HerHusband
I had some tutelage from a pro. A two man crew. We hauled a LARGE
picture window up the scaffold. Set the window with a couple of
The more I looked I figured out what was wrong. The window was upside
down and weep holes were on top.
Also it is easy to think you have the flashing/wrap tucked correctly.
In such a case I found it before the (another) window was set. The
*moist wrap* on one side was lapped wrong, so water would get behind
it - eventually.
Point being? The leak is right in front of you!
Nah , he is an expert who is more thorough than anybody else could possibly
be...It can't be something he did...I mean , only every door he has
installed leaks..It has to be the rotation of the Earth or some strange
phenomenon..Either that or he is cursed by the Door Gods....LOL...
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