How does this work: It's a shower stall with a seat and grab bars. Do these things come preattached, or do they install the stall and then look for studs to mount the seat and grab bars too. I can't believe the plastic walls alone are strong enough to hold them. But it doesn't say and I don't think there is much leeway for the grab bars.
(BTW, if you look carefully you may see a naked woman taking a shower. So it's worth checking even if you don't care about my question.)
Ideally, you'd find and mark the studs before installing the walls. Then the seats and grab bars are attached to the studs.
Even more ideally, you'd add extra bracing for the seat.
You'd probably be better off looking at the manufacturer's web site rather than the contractor's web site.
Cindy Hamilton
Studs for sure. Mine are over ceramic tile but secured to the studs.
First, all you needed to post was this:
Third, If the studs aren't where you want them, you install blocking. 2 x material in between the studs so you can securely hang grab bars, seats, shelves, etc.
Fourth, there are multiple ways to install seats. Visible brackets or floating.
Here are a couple of ways. Feel free to search for more.
Or blocking.
At the link directly above, they say they use "acrylic wall panels". Of course, other solutions could be quite different.
OK...gotcha.
In any case, attaching grab bars to studs or blocking is still the proper method, IMHO.
Granted, I just watched a How It's Made segment on how they make those huge aquarium walls from acrylic. I'll bet one of those could hold a grab bar. ;-)
Usually the ? and anything after it can be omitted, but that's not true with google searches, and rather than spend time checking a webpage I'll never quote again, I gave the whole thing. lp seemed quite undescriptive and I thought it was a utility node.
In the picture, I don't think everyone will know how to attach the blocking adequately It will be adequate for the initial install of the bars and the seat, but if people pull or sit on them, I would fear it would pull the blocking loose, and then the force will be distributed over a big portion of the shower wall, which will flex every time there is pulling. That would bother me and I'd fear I was going to rip the shower all apart. Not possible for the blocking to come loose?
I get the feeling that people who buy the original shower I posted about let them do the installation, and trying to get a contractor to do something one's own way will cause him either to say No, or to make you sign a release waiving a good part of the warranty.
I have to get my anti-feeding tube removed and 3 people on the anti-feeding facebook page had horror stories about not healing after removal. I just asked the doc about this, didn't actually say I want it done the more detailed way, but he's going to do it that way. I was surprised I didn't have to ask for it.
But he has to worry about malpractice claims and carpenters only worry about complaints and bad ratings.
It's normally a 5-minute procedure, but it has ballooned to 3 hours. It means going to a hospital instead of their clinic. I also have to have a CBC and other blood test, an electrocardiogram, and a Covid test. Maybe I would had to have those anyway. I'm curious and I will ask him.
BTW, he says only 1 time out of 1000 or 10,000 is there any problem healing and it usually takes only 6 hours iirc! (But the horror stories involved 6 weeks and in one case another surgery, in another case WoundVac, where iiuc they strap some sort of vacuum pump to your chest and the vacuum encourages healing for some weird reason. The whole thing is weird.
Darn, it makes me want to make something, yet here I am sitting at the PC getting fat.
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Woman in shower:
I don't really know how to respond to that. Oh...sure I do.
If you asked a question about how stairs are built and I posted a picture of the stringers, would you say "I don't think everyone will know how to install stair stringers adequately"?
Or do heart surgery? Or rebuild a transmission?
Of course not everyone knows how to do it. What does that have to do with it? You asked us how it was done, I showed you. If whoever you hire to remodel your bathroom doesn't know how to securely install blocking, you don't want that person touching *anything*.
Are you afraid every time you walk up a flight of stairs that you are going to end up in the basement? Or every time you apply your brakes that you'll end up in the middle of the intersection?
If you don't trust that the person who built (insert anything here) built it correctly, then you are going to spend a lot of time trembling in the corner.
Of course it is. Isn't it possible for your stair stringers to fall down? For the engine to fall off the plane? Sure, if the installer used Duck tape and rubber bands to attach the blocking, it could come loose. If your stair stringers or plane engine was installed using Duck tape and rubber bands, they could come loose too. Heck, if you attached the grab bar to the studs and the studs were installed with Duck tape and rubber bands, they could come loose too.
The method shown in that picture is quite secure, assuming it was properly toe-nailed/screwed, maybe even had some construction adhesive added.
Or if cleats were screwed to the studs and the blocking screwed to the cleats.
Another method is to notch each stud and inset a board, face screwing the board into the studs.
You could also use something like a Simpson angle bracket. There are lots of methods for securely installing blocking to keep you from being afraid every time you grab the bar. Again, if you don't trust the installer to do it properly, do it yourself.
And getting sued if Grandma gets hurt in the tub because they installed the blocking with Duck tape and rubber bands.
Stuff your mouth with rubber bands and hold them in with Duck tape.
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