Is home sewer pipe relining a good idea? As opposed to trenching and
laying in a new sewer pipe.
Does it really last 50 years like the plumbing companies that do this
The drain is supposed to have a leak and fill with water at a low
spot, and that's why the basement toilet will back up if the other two
toilets are flushed in quick succession, or if the washing machine
So any low spot is bad. I suppose a leak in terra cotta pipe could
let water in or water out, and the water coming out could make the
ground settle more around the leak, if there were some place for it to
settle to, but could it wash enough away for the line to sag?
This had been a well line which worked fine until a week ago. So
presumably it had no low spots then.
The line was roto-rooted a couple days ago, and then again with bigger
blades, all the way out to the city sewer. I keep thinking a clogged
vent pipe might be a lot of the reason the toilet backs up.
did the line have roots?
if so before replacing try rock salt dissolved say 4 times a year/.
its cheap, and very effective if roots are in the line. it kills the
roots but leaves tree and bushes unharmed.
25 pounds of rock salt dissolved in basement wash tub in very hot
water has served me great for over 12 years.
dissolve most then go out for day so no water is run
I had a whole post written starting with the answer to this quetion
("I don't know."), but it wasn't finished, and by the time I got home
I got a message from my friend.
Last night I mentioned B's problem to a mutural friend C, who said he
should call a fourth friend D, so I called B and told him to call D,
and today he told me that he did, and D said to call the county. (That
a fifth friend of all of us E, an old man, had had a similar problem
and the county fixed it.)
So last night around 5:30 B called the county and they came out in
about 90 minutes, found some problem, fixed it, and everything is fine
My friend didn't have to replace the pipe or reline it, and might not
have had to rotorooter it either. But he's happier about the money he
didn't spend than he is sad about the possibly wasted money he spent.
And no dug up yard, no replanting grass or mandatory watering etc.
E's house and B's house are only a quarter mile apart, and though one
is at the top of the hill and one at the bottom and around two
corners, they have the same floorplan. Probably the county sewers are
the same age too.
But if there is a clog already, it doesn't dissolve the roots that are
there, does it? You have to roto-root that first time (as he had
done) or use a long snake and then the salt thereafter, iiuc what
I talked to him on the phone just now and told him what you wrote.
BTW, it turns out the plumber couldn't find the cleanout in his
basement and removed the toilet to use that, even though my friend
could find his own clean out later.
Plus, the guy said he went 100 feet, but when the county came out,
they used a second cleanout plug in the ffront yard, that had to be on
my friend's property, and went from there into the street and he said
the clog was only 7 feet from the cleanout. He crushed that and then
went another 70 feet.
My friend's yard is about 50 or 60 feet from the house to the sidewalk
and another 4 feet to the street.
Did the plubmber roto-root the clog twice as he said but it still
wasn't enough to clear it? Did he only go 40 feet and not the 100 he
said, so he didn't reach the clog?
There is no doubt the plumber is NOT a cheat, but I think he may have
learned his "trade" by figuring it out and not as an apprentice (or at
least not long enough) or at a decent trade school. If it were up to
the plumber, my friend would have some sort of backhoe in his yard
today, and a bill for mucho money.
Similarly the deck next to my house was built by guys who were proud
of what they did, but they never took off the "pressure treated"
stickers stapled to the end of each flooring 2x4, and it looks
terrible. Neither did the owner at the time or the new owner for the
last 2 years. I may be a rank amateur but when I do do things, I
learn about it until I do them right.
On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:54:28 -0700 (PDT), "hr(bob) firstname.lastname@example.org"
I don't know. I thought I read it here. That it was something that
was often overlooked that could cause backup problems, or at least
Maybe because it can be hard for the air to exit the drain pipe
quickly enough to make room for the water. By having a functioning
air vent, there is a second way for the air to exit, in addition to
the drain pipe itself.
Things invented for one function often serve other functions, right?
Maybe since the use of air vents, they've been able to make drain
pipes smaller, and now the air vent is essential to toilet draining.
I don't know and I don't remember exactly what I read here, but it's
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