You want a burglary rated safe... Not the toy safes that provide a
of fire protection for documents... If you have many documents you
to keep safe from risk of fire, store them in a Sentry safe you keep
the burglary rated safe as fire inserts for professional safes get
Real safes with real electronic combo locks are very secure, again
are not the same thing as you would have installed on a toy safe...
As other people here have suggested pay a visit to several local
you will find one or more of them has a showroom full of adopted safes
they have collected and have up for sale...
Also some scrap places will have them.
The very corrupt City of Yonkers (NY), has a pile of safes in the municipal
building that look like they are on their way out.
Some used furniture places, as well.
Vacant industrial buildings may have some.
Here is an inneresting tid-bit.
My house has an old built-in Schwab safe, which of course was locked with no
So I called up bunches of locksmiths, safe companies, figgering they'd show
up with a Burgular's Stethoscope, and open'er up.
No way. Drill it, only. And for big $$$.
So I called the mfr, who was very accommodating, but still requiring me to
send house ownership documentation before they would help.
So after that, they gave me the "stock combination" over the phone, and
guided me into the rotation sequence -- it'd been years since I'd even seen
a Master combination padlock....
Usually these stock combinations are changed by the installer, and indeed
mine was, but by some freaking HYOOGE accident, I stumbled on the combo, as
one number was left the same, and another was semi-close.
The guy on the phone didn't believe me, figgering I was just another dumb
neurotic N'Yawker (not far from the truth), but still, it happenned. With
the door open, I was able to unscrew the tumbler cover plate and accurately
assess the new combination.
Old safes can have a second "jewelry safe" inside, with a second small round
very thick door and combination dial, which are SUPER-neat. Fortunately,
this one was already open, so I was able to sleuth out that combo as well.
So I sat in front of my lottery-like find for a few days, like an effing
moron, and now just show it off to metal-heads mebbe once a year.