Agree completely -- if I recall correctly, the OP said his power consumption
was on the order of 50 kwh per day, compared with figures of around 50 to 60
percent of that, given by other posters. IOW, the OP's *excess* consumption is
somewhere on the order of 20 to 25 kwh per day, or roughly 0.8 to 1 kwh per
_hour_, equivalent to a continuous 800 to 1000 watt load.
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
I have heard of shorts costing home owners 20$ a month 15 yrs ago when
electric was cheaper, but true that big a loss should be easily found,
probably the electric heater hidden in the kids room. or your neighbor
wired up to your garage.
Yea you guys are right. I guess I didnt read the post very carefully
that is alot of power and yes it would probably be glowing. Im clearly
not an electrician....Just out of curiosity would this test I found
actually work to find a "leak" in theory it makes sense????
On 26 Jan 2007 10:31:02 -0800, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
For 2006 I averaged 43 a monthly low of 36 & a high of 72. [2005
was 53- monthly low 38, high 83] Family of 4, 3 BR; appliances all
within 5 yrs; frost free frig with icemaker; manual frost freezer; gas
stove, water heater, dryer.
I'm in upstate NY- 2 months of summer- usually 5 of winter [last 2
winters never really showed up]
But our big electric thieves are; dehumidifier in basement year round;
humidifiers upstairs during heating season; ionizers on 2 floors;
liberal use of hair dryers by 2 ladies; coffee maker runs 9-10 hrs a
day; Instant Hot water at kitchen sink; pool pump 24/7 in summer;
liberal use of 4 window-shaker a/c's; oil furnace gun and fan in
winter; electric space heater in teen girls bedroom; 2 desktop
computers & monitors on 24/7; I used to have a sump pump that ran
frequently-- last year I got the drainage corrected and now save
10kwh/day. [may not be all that sump pump, as I didn't notice that
huge drop until just now when I looked at my past usage. But 2005 I
was using 53 & 2006 I used 42. I did use a different pool pump this
year- but that is all that changed other than the sump.]
Our lighting usage might be high, too- as we have people in the house
getting ready for work as early as 6AM - and others returning from
work at midnight. And there is rarely a time when someone isn't
home. So the 'lights are off' for only about 4-5 hrs a day.
For reference- my records go back to 1998 & these are my daily
averages for those years;
38, 34,40, 39, 41, 50, 50, 53, 43.
My washer is 10+ years old- dryer is gas & about 4. We do at least 3
times that much laundry.
Someone else mentioned a Kill-o-watt meter- Here's the one I use
The P3 - starts at $21 now- I paid $39 for mine 4-5 yrs ago. I
haven't found an electricity thief in my house-- but have eliminated a
bunch of suspects.
Heating season - your furnace uses *some* electricity. Do you use AC
in summer? [In my experience the guys who do the surveys for the
electric company are pretty clueless- and with little common sense.
I actually got a handout from the electric company once that said
*radios* were major electricity users. Might have been true in the
40s when they were tubed, but not likely since the 70's.]
First thing to do is try the 'shutting off all power' and see if the
meter still runs. Then turn the circuits back on one at a time and
make a thorough assessment of the electricity you use. [good time to
make a list of what goes to what circuit breaker.]
Things like pool pumps, sump pumps, dehumidifiers, etc often get
forgotten but if your neighbors are using much less than you- they
could be the variable. Also look at your kitchen counter--- we get
high usage from our toaster, coffee maker, George Foreman grill and an
electric deep-fryer. [and the Hot H2O is an extravagant convenience]
The vegetarian next door blends some veggies once in a while. [he's
also only home a couple hrs a day- and rarely on the weekends. I'll
bet he uses 1/10th the electricity we do]
I've done the assessment and have decided that the $6.40 a day it cost
us last year was worth the convenience & comfort. YMMV.
Curious about the Instant Hot Water. What leads you to think that
this is a big user of electricity? It's only a small insulated tank
that holds a few quarts of water. And in most homes, the actual usage
of water out of it is very small and only occasional. I would think
the amount of electricity actually used is small and certainly not on
the order of magnitude of your 24/7 pool pump, A/C's, etc. Did you
actually measure the usage of all these things or how did you
pool pump 24/7 in summer;
Here's the one I
I *think* it came out to 60cents a day when I checked it a couple
years ago. My Kill--a-Watt is idle, I'll throw it on again tonight.
Plugged in at 8:45 eastern- Wife got her evening cup & the wattage is
500. If I remember right, we got the cheapest one because it
looked right with our decor. [I just install things- my wife picks
them out.] We had one fail & I dissected it. There was little to no
BTW- this is the one we have;
That's what I get for 'thinking'. In 12 hrs, with 2 cups drawn, and
nearly worst case ambient temp, it used .58 KwH -less than a 20 cents
a day, even here. [about 15 cents *real* cost per KwH]
A lot less than I remembered-- but it still represents 2-3 percent of
my usage - or about $4-5 a month. If I was cheaper than I am
lazy, I'd probably unplug it. [I have thought about a timer- but it
is likely to be used at any time of day in our house- we have an
assortment of night-owls and someone is home all day.]
A/C's suck up a lot of power-- but they don't run 24/7 & only get used
5-6 days year in my neck of the woods. The pool pump. . . pure
Dont forget your electric dildo and vibrator. As much as you use
them, you should own the electric company by now. I bet if you shut
them off and used your dick instead, you'd save a couple hundred bucks
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