I have pets in the house so I am scared to put out any posion. My dogs
will catch them, so I am worried they might be posioned as well. How do
I get rid of them, they are eating my house up. I use the traps but
they seem to keep on coming.
first, look for holes and plug them. I once had terrible mice
problems in a cabin until i discovered a mis drilled hole for a drain
that was serving as a mouse highway. cover holes with sheet metal or
plug with steel wool.
then, trap the heck out of the mice in your house. i get a lot of
traps, like 10, and put them everywhere. i use a small scrap of cloth
smeared with peanut butter for bait. the mice will not be able to
resist pulling on the scrap of cloth, and the traps will remain
effective for a long time.
you should be able to get the mice population to a very low level, and
then you just have to trap the occasional immigrating mice.
if you have a basement, clean it.
For those of us with pets, the standard mouse traps are not safe. But
someone did build a better mouse trap! D-con has a plastic snap trap
with a covered mechanism -- but be aware that a determined dog (or cat
if it likes the bait) could open it and get its nose or paws snapped. I
jam the end with the mechanism under a cabinet just to make sure my
terrior can't get it (or at least I'd notice his attempts).
Glue traps are not safe for pets, and they have the added problem
because you need to kill the mouse as soon as it is trapped by the glue
(drowning them is generally the easiest).
The population problem is complicated by whether you live in a
stand-alone or attached/apartment house. I'm dealing with a mouse
invasion also, and live in an apartment so I am having to kill off all
the mice in the neighborhood -- unless I keep all the doors and windows
tightly shut. That seems to be the way they are getting in -- I have
filled in the mus holes. Btw, copper wool is more durable than steel,
and plastering/spackling the wool is better than just wool.
If anyone has any suggestions on how to keep mice out without being
forced to keep windows and doors closed and/or on how to deal with a
constant supply from a neighborhood population without resorting to
poison, please let me know.
On 17 Jun 2006 21:20:32 -0700, email@example.com wrote:
Well, I've lived here for 23 years, and although I had mice once
before, last summer the mice ate holes in the screen doors of both my
front and rear sliding glass doors. I think they did both ends of the
front one. I think it corresponds to my not keeping a clean kitchen
last summer (frankly, I live alone and it was filthy. food left out,
I live next to a stream, which means as in many cases, I live next to
a sewer main. I saw a rat in the front yard about 15 years ago, and
about then the HOA decided to have rat poison put around. I thought,
after the first few months, it was a waste of money until last summer
also I was coming up the stairs from the basement, where I hadn't been
for a few days, and I found a dead rat on the stairs, next to the wall
3 steps from the first floor. I almost didn't notice him, because I
had other stuff (in transit to another floor) also on the steps. I
didn't know if my mouse poison killed him or what. It was disgusting.
I also didn't know how he got in, but later in the summer I saw that
the screen on the basement window had a pretty big hole in it. I keep
that window open about 8 months a year. He must have chewed it open
and jumped down to the floor, even though there was no food for him in
the basement. I have a feeling that the neighborhood poison is what
I think a mouse squeezed between the screen and the slider. ewwww.
It was at the end of summer when the warm house air was escaping into the
cool night air and it lured it to my door. I keep the door closed now.
Yup, I think they also come up the basement stairs. ewwww. I put a door
sweep at the bottom now.
:) >marson wrote:
:) >> Pam wrote:
:) >> > I have pets in the house so I am scared to put out any posion. My dogs
:) >> > will catch them, so I am worried they might be posioned as well. How do
:) >> > I get rid of them, they are eating my house up. I use the traps but
:) >> > they seem to keep on coming.
:) >For those of us with pets, the standard mouse traps are not safe.
:) "not safe"???? What the heck are you talking about?
A snap across a muzzle or toe can injure them.
Hurt, yes. "Injure", hardly. Dogs learn *very* quickly to leave mouse traps
alone. One whack is usually all it takes.
In any event, it doesn't require very much in the way of cleverness on the
part of the homeowner to position mousetraps where pets can't get at them, but
the mice can.
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
OP could have an Irish Wolfhound and a trap snapping on a toe or tail
could still cause INJURY, not just pain -- broken bone, torn-out nail.
In any case, it's enough that the poster does not want her dog hurt.
No need to be insulting about it.
I was just up to my cabin.
I have an electric Fi-Shock. It is a fence electrifier and animal
trainer/deterrent. You make it into a device that causes rodents to
I put it out, and one night got nine mice. The shock will kill them. If
Bowser goes over and investigates, and makes contact one time, he will never
go within six feet of it again in his life. But since dogs usually don't go
for peanut butter, it isn't a problem.
A quick painless way to kill rodents that is sure, and has no poisons. Not
enough electricity to kill a human.
If interested, post here, and I will give you a simple description of how to
set one up.
They work, and the parts will cost about $30.
Don't leave pet food out for them - they LOVE dog chow. Clean like
crazy, get crumbs out of corners, cupboards, etc. Put edibles into
mouse-proof containers - no BAGS of dog food, flour, cereal, etc. Put
traps with a touch of peanut butter behind the stove and fridge;
favorite cozy place to go. They won't go for traps if the kitchen is
full of other food sources spilled all over and under stuff. A little
tiny bit of stuff is a nice big meal for a mouse.
Don't know what you term an "invasion" - I've only ever had one or two
per season, late fall. One really crafty mouse stashed dog chow around
the burner of the clothes dryer, which made for an interesting
late-night session with the fire department :o)
Clean up all clutter, anyplace they can hide or nest (be careful --
mouse leavings can contain dangerous viruses, e.g., Hantavirus,
especially in certain areas of the country. May want to avoid vacuum,
use broom and damp mop). Remove all food sources, including things
such as birdseed if you feed birds or keep pet birds (remove pet birds'
food at night and replace in the morning). Supplies of dog kibble or
birdseed should go in metal cans (galvanized trash cans work well for
this and come in a nice variety of sizes).
Check places such as where your water lines come in; an opening of even
1/2 inch is a mouse superhighway. Stuff holes with copper or stainless
steel mesh (e.g., scrubbing pads. Steel wool works, too, but has the
potential to turn into a rusty mess.) Place traps along the walls
(behind large appliances works well, and keeps them away from your
dogs, too); mice tend to hug the walls when they scurry around.
Beyond that, if you can have/want more pets, I recommend a cat that is
from a line of good mousers. Although cats will chase moving objects
instinctively, actually catching mice is a learned behavior; you want
one whose mother showed it the ropes.
Also, not to quibble, but it has been proven that hungry cats are NOT
the best mousers, so not feeding a cat you want to catch mice is not
only cruel, but counterproductive. Cats in good physical condition
make the best mousers.
My dogs will "mouse," also, but they don't come close to the skill my
cats have at the task.
"Towser" (now deceased) holds the record for killing 28,999 mice during her
career as "Mouser-In-Chief" at the Glenturret Distillery in Scotland.
That's 3.5 mice per day during her 23-year life. Plus a few rats and an
Mice don't stand a chance against a cat. Cats can see better than mice -
especially in the dark, move faster, and just enjoy the heck out of chasing
things. (Our "cat exerciser" is a laser pointer.)
My mice come in thru the crack under the front door. THey are capable of
squeezing thru holes 1/4 inch in diameter (These are the real tiny mice -
IF you have pets, I find that this is the best trap:
IT is gentle enough not to hurt the larger animal but very deadly to the
mouse. IT will out catch a standard spring trap 10 to 1
There are also various humane traps . peanut butter works good as bait as
will bird seed. IF you have access to the attic, put a few traps up there.
Placement of the trap is critical. Push it up against the wall where they
I average about 60 mice a year. The cat is no use
What kind of traps are you using? If you're live-trapping them, and releasing
them anywhere near your home, you're trapping the same mice over and over, and
you need to switch to lethal traps. If you're already using lethal traps...
you need more of them.
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
:) I have pets in the house so I am scared to put out any posion. My dogs
:) will catch them, so I am worried they might be posioned as well. How do
:) I get rid of them, they are eating my house up. I use the traps but
:) they seem to keep on coming.
Of course the overall health of the dog comes into play.... The amount
of toxin before treatment is considered advisable is 5%-10% of the
animals body weight. If all the mice had been feeding exclusively on the
bait for three days so that their bodies are full of the toxin the
amount of mice needed to be eaten by a ten pound animal would be 22-44
mice. Bait is usually the quicker remedy but with mice there is a much
more chance of one dying in a wall since they have such a small living
area. Remove all clutter and tall grass within at least 10 feet of the
structure. Placing outside bait stations that keep children and other
animals from getting to the bait around the property to reduce the
rodent population that will eventually work their way to the home.
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