Google Groups is NOT Usenet, no matter how much Brin and Page want to
pretend that it is.
There's lots of Usenet access available that runs on proper NNTP, not WWW.
Why read your Usenet through Google's censored, bloated, ad-laden
You guys make some very broad assumptions. Everyone doesn't necessarily
have the same usage patterns and needs that you do. And that certainly does
not make them stupid. As an example, I travel frequently and can access my
newsgroups through Google Groups through any computer that has web access.
There is computer
access to the internet at most hotels and airport lounges and they do not
have Outlook Express or any other client based newsreader on them.
What I find particularly offensive is how Google's group search makes you
choose between "site or domain" and "Google Groups". The inference is that
Google controls what they call "Google Groups". Nowhere do Brin and Page
even hint that "Google Groups" is simply pulling its feed from Usenet,
which is entirely separate from Google.
But then again, since Google bought the old DejaNews archive years ago, I
guess they DO control at least Usenet's past, which would probably be
generally undiscoverable absent Deja's archival efforts.
Hey Brin, you ex(?)-Commie, you're surely aware of what George Orwell had
one of his characters say once: "Who controls the past controls the future;
who controls the present controls the past". Is that your ultimate goal?
Another opinion that isn't grounded in reality. The search window on Google
does not make you choose between "site or domain" and google groups. What
it has are two choices for
A - Search within this group
B - Search all groups.
That means do I want to limit the search to alt.home.repair or extend it to
all the other newsgroups, eg alt.autos.mercedes, etc.
The inference is that
The advanced search page offers as options the ability to search
within Google Groups or within a particular domain. Those are
OPTIONS. You can do any search without putting anything in
those fields in which case it will search everywhere. They do not
MAKE you choose either of those to do a search, which is what
you claimed. You have a problem with people having choices?
What's next, bitching because they allow you to limit the search
by date too?
This coming from the guy who a few days ago was spewing forth about how the
law says that someone who hits another car from behind is always, 100% at
fault, no ifs ands or buts. When asked to produce such a law, of course
none was forthcoming and I together with a few others here provided plenty
of links to law enforcement and lawers who say you're simply wrong.
So, do you know as much about Google and the internet as you do about law?
Have you considered that there are users who are forced to use GG
because newsreader clients are not allowed on some locked down corporate
machines, such as mine?
I have a newsreader on my home machine (and I'm using it right now) but
it's more convenient to use one method as opposed to switching back and
forth depending on whether I'm at home or not.
It's much easier to keep track of the threads I'm interested in when
presented with the same interface regardless of where I read a.h.r.
Please don't bother tossing out comments like "Well, you shouldn't be
reading a.h.r at work if they won't allow usenet access." That's a
subject for an entirely different thread. My comments are related only
to your response "Too stupid/lazy to actually learn a better way". There
are actually other valid reasons why someone would use GG.
As to those that state that they won't see any posts that come from GG,
so be it. The fact that they don't see my posts is their loss, not mine.
And you completely avoided Derby's main point, which was that he uses GG
because he can't install a newsreader at work. Another excellent example of
why some of us use Google and a one size solution for all doesn't work.
Once again, I post another "good reason":
Some locked-down corporate images do not allow the installation of news
reader applications or even the news reader portion of email clients
that include them.
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