We just had our hardwood floors finished and while inspecting the work I
a)that the polyurethane stopped just in front of the dishwasher and the
refrigerator. In other words, the two appliances are sitting over unsanded,
bare wood (this is a new oak floor that replaces many layers of old
b) two wood thresholds, bridging bathroom tile floors and hardwood
hallways, have uncoated areas on the bathroom side, where they meet the
Q: These are places likely to get pretty wet, and I think they should be
fully coated, or am I being finicky?
c)unlike the floors, which have a smooth finish, the staircase threads are
quite rough and appear to have received fewer finish coats.
Q: would this be on purpose, to make them less slippery?
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No, you are not being finicky. The entire floor, thresholds and
stairs should be finished to the same color, sheen and smoothness. If
this requires moving the kitchen appliances out of the way then that
needs to be done.
If you had your rooms carpeted would you be satisfied if the new
carpet went up to your furniture and stopped? I certainly hope you
haven't paid for this job yet.
My question would be why were the appliances in there before the floor
was done? You don't really expect the floor guys to "uninstall" a
dishwasher do you? And where would they move the frige to? They are
not equipped to move a frige.
remove the "not" from my address to email
Both of those appliances basically just slide out. There may be a
couple screws at the top of the dishwasher and the fridge probably has
something behind the bottom grill to "lower" the front wheels. The
floor guys will br familiar with both. You clearly don't know what
you are talking about. It's common to install finished level floor
under both of them because they are difficult to r&r if they are
sittting below floor level. No doubt the floorer put them back to
make it easier to finish the exposed floor. He didn't want to wait
for the poly to dry so he didn't put any under them. He's trying to
maximize the work he can do in a day and minimize the number of
visits. His other option would have been to move the appliances
completely off the new floor and that was probably a pain as well.
Any contractor doing floors does not like messing with plumbing,
electrical, etc. It's not their business. The guys finishing the
floor are getting paid fifteen or twenty an hour - maybe, and their
experience is in finishing floors, not plumbing or moving appliances.
They probably could move the appliances..and _almost_ without ever
having a problem. If there is a problem, the downside is a lot
steeper than the upside.
Shortcuts? Who made the decision to put appliances on an unfinished
floor? THAT was the shortcut, and it backfired. Whoever installed
the appliances ahead of time and out of the normal schedule, should
have been called back to remove them, and then replace them after the
floor is finished. If the owner created the problem and told them to
do it, or allowed them to do it (inexperience), it's his nut.
Some of you guys are idiots. The op hired someone to replace some
flooring with hardwood including the kitchen. That flooring
contractor is not going to sub out moving two appliances. The
flooring contrator is going to do it himself.
Interesting. I did not realize you were clairvoyant, oh mighty
Swami! The OP posted once, never mentioned the contracting
arrangement (hence my asking him in my first post what the situation
was) and you have no more information than I do. Yet, you seem
confident enough to start calling people idiots. Please.
A reasonably intelligent flooring contractor is not going to be stupid
enough to remove the appliances, install the floor, then put the
appliances back before they've finished the floor. I could come up
with about five or six likely scenarios, but I have no real clue what
happened. Again, that's why I asked.
Here's the deal - I don't need you telling me what you _know_ what
happened as you don't have any more information than I do. Let's wait
for the OP to reply. Sound fair?
On Wednesday, August 18, 2010 at 7:38:36 AM UTC-6, jamesgangnc wrote:
nk they should be
I am a foreman for a flooring company. Flooring companies are are not insur
ed to move appliances, or disconnect gas lines or pluming. If we try to do
that, and something goes wrong, such as a gas or water leak, or damage to t
he appliances, that would have to be paid for out of pocket, and it isn't w
orth the liability risk. It is important to have the appliances out of the
way before the floor refinishers get there for this reason. Please stop f
eeding people false information when you don't know what you are talking ab
On 12/12/2017 1:28 AM, email@example.com wrote:
I sort of agree, but it was still a hack job. The appliances evidently
were out of the way to install the floor. Those spots should have had
finish applied before they were put back. If you look at the original
post, spots were missed on a bathroom threshold too. Sounds like shoddy
The question is, sho put the appliances back? Homeowner may have been
part of it but the flooring guy should have contacted them before doing
a crap job. As a foreman, what would your company have done?
On Tuesday, December 12, 2017 at 9:37:32 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
hink they should be
nsured to move appliances, or disconnect gas lines or pluming. If we try to
do that, and something goes wrong, such as a gas or water leak, or damage
to the appliances, that would have to be paid for out of pocket, and it isn
't worth the liability risk. It is important to have the appliances out of
the way before the floor refinishers get there for this reason. Please st
op feeding people false information when you don't know what you are talkin
And what did the contract say? I can move my own appliances, but for sure
if you're a flooring company and you refuse to do so, you're going to lose
business to competitors who do, even if they charge a bit more, with
customers who can't or won't move the appliances themselves.
Since you're asking these questions, I have a question for you - are
you acting as your own general contractor and did you hire the floor
finisher? If so, you didn't communicate properly and you relied on an
The floor should definitely be finished under the appliances, and the
floor should be finished before the appliances are installed. If the
floor is refinished, then there's usually no need to remove the
appliances to refinish an area that has seen no wear.
As far as the stairs, they're harder to do smoothly than an open
floor, but they shouldn't be rough, and, if anything, they should have
more coats of finish rather than fewer. Did you count the coats or
are you basing it on how it looks?
Why were appliances returned to the kitchen before the flooring was
finished. They obviously had to be removed for the flooring to be
installed. My guess is that the finisher had not planned on removing them
prior to finishing the floor.
The "holidays" on the thresholds are inexcusable and need a return visit by
The stair treads need to be smooth. If they're not satisfactory, the a
return visit by the finisher is needed. They are not left rough for any
reason I know of.
I'd like to thank everyone who took the time to reply to my posting. This
forum is a great resource, especially for a (slightly wiser now) first-time
renovator. Your input is very valuable in helping me decide how to
proceed--- and I hope to post a positive follow-up sometime soon.
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I'll throw in on the stair treads- you don't want them glossy-smooth
like a piano top. More of a satin finish is what to shoot for.
Otherwise, anybody on those stair just wearing socks on their feet is at
risk of falling on their ass. Kids and older folks especially. BTDT, etc.
Have you already paid for the whole job, if not, make a phone call
quickly, and be prepared to do without the appliances installed for a
day while the urethane dries. If you already paid, about the best you
are likely to get is a can of urethane and a brush and be told to do
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