Do the math. There is no point of bringing in air that is anything less
than 80 degrees or thereabouts to make it feel "cool". The containers
absorb and radiate a lot of heat from their steel after being in direct
sunlight for 14 hours or so. A squirrel cage would simply move warm/hot air
around. I have had interior temperatures of 135 degrees, with outside temps
We are finishing putting the trusses on. Lots of attachment points, plus a
superstructure in the middle that doubles as a hoist. When we deck it out,
it may still be hot enough to try the water idea thing, but I'm sure that is
the way I will go. Then an evaporative cooler for each container, vented to
I once had a 1400 sf workshop for my business. The AC unit could not cool
down all the steel in there without running 24/7. So, I got one of the roll
arounds. But then, taking inside humid air, and trying to evaporate water
with it isn't efficient, and made it as humid as Houston inside the shop.
Time and experimentation will tell. I'm going to insulate a room within the
container with some very good insulation, and put a window unit in there for
brew space. I only need to keep it at 75 for a week or so, and that can be
done with any small 110v. air conditioner, even the smallest. 640 CUBIC
feet at most.
Heart surgery pending?
Any practical way to shade the containers?
Speaking of squirrel cage fans, until my son picked this up for 5
bucks at a rummage sale, I didn't know how neat they are.
(Amazon.com product link shortened)
This little sucker really pushes some air. About 3 times as much as a
similar powered "normal" box fan.
He uses it for working on cars and I've been using it to dry the
basement after getting flooded.
Ther'e even better Lasko branded fan like this.
Oh yea, I hope you didn't give them your name and address or any way to
find you. You may have a group of armed feds show up at your door to
take you away for having an unauthorized toxic storage site. The chances
are the government would take your home and property. I know that many
people would think it paranoid but remember all the American
citizens who've been killed by government agents over some asinine law.
I don't tell anybody anything when it comes to a possible violation of
any government regulation or law. I will inquire about it or research it
discreetly, especially if there is some reward program in existence
for turning in violators. TELL NO ONE!
What total nonsense. It would not be poisoning the earth
anymore than a similar leach field from the millions of
homes with septic systems. As for graywater, in some
areas it's actually OK and encouraged to capture and use
for lawn watering and similar.
First, while septic systems break down human and other
organic waste, I seriously doubt they are going to break
down many harmful chemicals. If I pour benzene or
paint contain lead down a toilet, explain how a home
septic system is going to break that down.
Second, the issue in question is for grey water from
a room used to make beer. Exactly what does that
have to do with harmful chemicals? Apparenty you
are unaware that some municipalities are encouraging
the capture and use of grey water for things like
my toilet, tell us how that is going to be broken dow
Where are you located ?
Do your state regulations consider grey water to be sewage ?
Your county permitting process for installing a septic system
would have to be followed, every state regulates this sort of
It sounds as if you need to look into the state laws on this to
see if grey water is considered sewage and would have to have
the full gamut of pre-install permitting and soil perc testing
before you can start digging...
It also sounds to me like you want to carefully consider where
you locate this grey water discharge system as if it is too close
to your septic system discharging all of the soaps, sanitizers and
the like can affect your black water septic system as those sorts
of chemicals tend to kill the bacteria in the septic system which
process the waste...
I have not done this before but have observed the process through
attending hearings where septic system designs were considered
and approved after hearing the reports from the perc testing and
the hydrologist's report on the conditions of the water table and
aquifer in the area...
Advice: Seek out an expert in the design and permitting in
septic systems in your state -- you might be an early adopter
of a grey water system... In no case should you be digging
trenches and putting a system in by yourself without a permit...
YOU may know what that drain should be used for but will
future owners or users of your property know that your homemade
and un-permitted grey water system doen't have a septic tank
and therefore shouldn't have certain things drained into it ?
Suggestion: Same as advice only with the addition that you
should seek out environmental type water conservationists
in your area and see what advice they have, what licensed experts
they recommend you get design advice/assistance from and
perhaps they might know of how to apply for special permitting...
Typical. The guy has some basic grey waste water from a small
room where he makes beer. And you make a big deal out of
it. I suppose instead of using it to water some grass or plants
he should hire an environmental engineer.
Hold your phone calls, folks. We do have a winner.
Thanks, Oren. My sediments exactly. I was asking more along the lines of
construction techniques, but guess everyone went off on a legal tangent.
Forgiveness is easier to get than approval.
Heart surgery pending?
Putting in a dry well is the frkin' simple part...a hole in the ground
with rocks in it. The trouble you can get in to if its regulated can
be a real PITA. You will wish like hell you sought approval if it is
ever questioned because the burden of proof will be on you to prove
you did no harm and that can be expensive.
When you dump something on the ground, it has to leach through
the topsoil and subsoil layers before it can get into the aquifer...
When you dig a below the ground leaching field, you provide a
direct to the water table means of access for whatever you are
Something which may not be harmful in the concentrations which
survive the UV exposure when they are flowing across the surface
of the ground and whatever portions successfully penetrate the layers
of soil between daylight and groundwater could potentially pollute
the aquifer when you directly inject them into the ground...
This is why septic and drainage systems require permits and
hearings... You aren't the only one using the ground water in
your area -- but if you want to create your own "plume" of
something and become one of the EPA's most wanted --
go for it... The lawsuits from everyone who owns land within a
mile of yours and alphabet soup government agencies you
have never heard of before won't cost that much, will they ?
Dry wells are in many places restricted to rainwater use
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