Then there's Towser.
During her 23-year lifespan, Towser caught 23,898 mice at the Glenturrent
Distillery in Scotland (plus a few rats and an occassional rabbit).
Towser is immortalized both by mention in the Guinesss Book of Records and
by a bronze statue of her at the distillery.
Here's a test: If the cat will chase a laser pointer dot, I'd bet she'd be a
My experience after one year of owning a new double wide which we use as a
cabin is that the mice will run off with scads of bait and hide it in the
most improbable places. I learned from a pro, right here on this NG that
traps are a more efficient solution. Set the traps with the bait towards
the wall (being rectangular this means that the narrow edge with the bait
pad goes against the wall). This is because the mice slink along the wall
using their whiskers as feelers and often blunder into the trap. The bait
that I have used successfully is peanutbutter - it's aromatic. I feel that
the traps are more humane than the sticky paper because death is quick and
not prolonged with great struggling. Our mouse problem is less constant but
since the little buggers are great breeders there will be a nearly endless
supply of them. An outside cat is usually a better mouser because they
aren't spoiled and they remain curious and aware. When I've had outside
cats in the country I've not had much problem with mice getting into the
HaHaHa! I recently removed a 275 Gal oil tank
in the basement. We Sawzalled the legs off close to the
floor. These were hollow pipes, open at the top.
When removed, there were 4 tidy piles of bait on the floor.
The mice had been dutifully carting the stuff all the way down
from the attached garage, thru the crawl space.
After going thru several large boxes of the stuff I figured that they were
either immune, had a colony of hundreds or decided that this was like canned
peaches which they would save for times when the natural food sources were
covered with snow. After finding the pellets in our bed and on a high shelf
at our cabin I wnt to the traps. Three mice later I didn't have another
infestation for a couple of months, caught two more a couple weeks ago so
we'll see how long that lasts. Traps... **get traps**!!!
So this means it's possible they carry the portable bait to their
nest, but still eat it and die later.
I have this too. and this is my big question, the part I don't get.
They tell me mice reproduce quickly, so how come if I kill two or
three, or even if I just straigten up the house, they disappear for
months at a time? Did I scare them away. Are they hiding and eating
food they stockpiled, or getting hungry. I thought they had to eat
every day or two.
For a couple weeks I would hear what were probably footstep in the
ceiling of my kitchen, but that stopped months ago. Did they not have
Another time I seemed to have none for 18 months, so was I reinfested
or was I just not paying attention?
How come it SEEMS so easy to get rid of them.
Perhaps, because when you find evidence of mice and set
traps or whatever, you're also careful to eliminate
accessible food sources?
I know that when I've had ants in the house, I'm really
careful about food storage, crumbs on the floor etc. for
several months after that.
| Malcolm Hoar "The more I practice, the luckier I get". |
Under perfect conditions, a female may breed 45-60 days from being born.
Gestation is around 20 days, a litter of a healthy mouse during peak
breeding age is 10-12 pups. She is ready to breed again 48 hours of
having her litter. So if half the litter is female that will be ready to
breed in 5-6 weeks. By the time first litter came of age to start
breeding themselves mama mouse could of already had another litter and a
third on the way.
Part of the perfect condition would be a moussy(moussie?) world with
no predators. Most people are surprised to the amount of snakes that are
in any given area along with pet cats, ferrel cats, rats, owls, etc. all
feeding on the lower rungs of the food chain. Mice are also territorial.
Amount of available food may determine what populations you will see. If
there is not food to share with the kiddos they will be chased off to
find their own territory. The live catch & then go release elsewhere is
more of a feel good for the human doing the trapping. Chances are the
released mouse has gone through a couple of hard days of fighting for
their lives before dieing.
A friends basement STANK he had used poision, he now uses traps.
I have used a live trap, and released them outdoors. nearly all
survived the elderly grey hair ones didnt do so well.
I had stupidly had a 50 pound sack of sunflower seeds in basement for
bird feeding. 10 years later I was still finding seed shells in wall
When remodeling kitchen I put cement around all flooir openings like
gas line, the mice use those tiny holes as runways
On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 13:55:41 GMT, firstname.lastname@example.org (Doug Miller)
Not an instant I don't think. At least not all the time. Way back in
Brooklyn 24+ years ago, We had mice for a year out of the 12 I was
there, and one night I was still awake when the snap trap snapped. I
heard him whining for about 6 seconds before he shut up. 6 seconds
isn't that long though. My roommate said traps were cruel and we
should use a cat, but months later it occurred to me that cats really
torment mice before they kill them. If a mousee can feel fear at all,
he must be scared when the cat is holding him and taking him to the
Even the silence after 6 seconds doesn't mean he was dead yet, because
in the glue traps they struggle for a while and then become still for
a long time. But if I touch the glue trap, they start struggling
I have a handful of customers that have the "Rat-Zapper" Impressed me
enough to want to sell them myself, but they are pricey to begin with so
don't think they would be worth what I would have to charge to be
profitable to handle.
They ARE worth the price. I tried snap traps, poison, sticky paper,
live traps and even an exterminator and still had issues with them
until I got a rat zapper. It was the best device I ever tried and it
solved my problem. I spent more on all of the other methods as a rat
zapper cost. I would buy another one if this one ever breaks.
On 17 Feb 2007 17:52:31 -0800, "JimmyDahGeek@DON'T_SPAM_ME_gmail.com"
They might be hard to sell to a customer, with a markup, but the one I
found on the web, the Classic (there are two models, classic and
ultra.) was 29 dollars, not too much for one of the rich readers of
this ng. :) I just have to find out if Jimmy the Greek is a
I still like the Tin Cats. No electricity. Just toss the Tin cat in a
bucket of water, wait five minutes, and empty contents. With these other
electrical ones, the dead rodents may stay in there and ripen. Or just cook
while staying in contact with electrical contacts for hours. Making such
things as hantavirus and other nasty things a consideration.
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