There is still considerable confusion as to the order of events on that
But the following has been repeated for several days now, and is a
=====================Investigators are scrutinizing radar tapes from when the plane first
departed Kuala Lumpur because they believe the tapes will show that
after the plane first changed its course, it passed through several
pre-established waypoints, which are like virtual mile markers in the
That would suggest the plane was under control of a knowledgeable pilot
because passing through those points without using the computer would
have been unlikely.
I guarantee 100% that if I knew or looked up the location of those
waypoints and programmed them into my 10-year-old Garmin Geko, the Geko
could easily give me a direction / heading, speed, and ETA that would
allow me to easily steer the plane to that location. I've used my Geko
on dozens if not hundreds of flights over the past 10 years, and it has
never failed to get a GPS fix from a window seat during all phases of a
flight (taxi, takeoff, and landing).
When I program the coordinates of a runway, it has given me accurate
information as to my height and ETA that correctly nails touchdown on
the runway to within 50 ft and to within seconds.
The Geko would have no problems getting a GPS satellite fix given all
the windows in the cockpit.
Why are the "officials" and the media continuing to try to make the
public believe that civillians or terrorists wouldn't or couldn't use
hand-held GPS devices on a plane - either to know their location or to
steer a plane using them?
And a final thought:
The events and conjecture surrounding what fate this plane suffered has
driven the nail firmly into coffin of the idea that a plane full of
consumer electronic gadgets pose a threat to aircraft safety - because
not one pundit or expert has included interference with onboard systems
from passenger devices in the list of what could have happened to this
I agree, If you looked around on the net, I bet you could dig up the
operators manual for the flight control system on that particular
plane. At that point it is not that much more complicated that setting
up the nav system in your car.
I found the actual maps with way points and such on the net but I was
not interested in paying $100-150 per area to down load them.
On Tuesday, March 18, 2014 10:01:04 AM UTC-4, H0me^Gvy wrote:
I agree you could get to those waypoints various ways. But obviously
whoever pulled this off, knew a lot about the plane. So, why would
they be relying on a handheld GPS instead of entering them or forcing
the pilots to enter the waypoints in the GPS?
But if you're not jet rated, not type rated in the 777, etc, good
luck getting there. And if you are, then just entering the waypoints
in the nav system is a lot easier. Why be tied down trying to fly
the plane, when you don't have to?
Why would they bother? If they were capable of precision controlling
the 777 to exactly hit those waypoints, then they would very likely
be able to just enter the waypoints in the nav system.
They haven't because it's total nonsense. The FAA has tested all kinds
of passenger devices and never found any capable of interfering. That's
why they announced last year that they were giving the OK from a safety
standpoint of cell phones being used. And what completely rules this
out is we're not talking about a plane that suddenly lost it's way, or
crashed out of the sky. We're talking about a plane that conveniently
had it's communication cease right where it was handed off from Malaysian
ATC to Vietanm ATC. Then it flew to two waypoints, hit them perfectly,
and then made a turn aligning perfectly with the flight corridor to
India/Middle East. How do you explain that, killing VHF, ACARS,
Transponers too, from interference from a consumer electronic device?
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