"Dan Espen" wrote in message writes:
R> MICHELLE H. wrote:
I believe deer can go even higher.
But my experience says they won't.
I've had that 6 foot fence up since 2009 and so far, not one deer has
come in the yard.
However, deer can see right through chain link.
I think it's important for the view to be blocked.
Deer aren't likely to jump something when they can't see where they are
going to land.
I don't think 5 feet of chain link will work and I don't think
you'd be able to stretch the link onto the fence if you don't use
cement. You could try cementing only the end posts but if I was
doing chain link, I'd use cement on all the posts.
This last year, about 7 sections of my fence were destroyed by Sandy.
After the trees were removed, we had deer tracks in the yard the next
day. I just finished repairs so the deer will have to eat somewhere
Oh, yeah, raccoons. Nothing short of land mines or electricity will
keep them out. I don't grow vegetables.
Dan..We had a raccoon problem here cleaning out the bird feeders. I solved
Steel posts less than 4" diameter will move all over the place
without cementing them in.. Around here you go at least 3 feet down
and cement 2 1/2 inch posts in a minimum 6" hole, otherwize the fence
will start to lean within 2 years.
Yeah, those raccoons are nasty as well!!! And they aren't all
lovey-dovey, and cute like you see on TV or in the movies!!! The ones
that come up into my backyard are HUGE!!! Last year there was about 8 of
them, and they look to weigh about 40 pounds each with long 4 inch razor
sharp nails. And if there are little ones, watch out, because the momma
raccoon won't back down, and she will charge at you!!!!!
I tried to chase some off my pool deck one night.
I'd push them over the side of the deck with the pool net
and they'd climb right back up.
They made short work of the pool toys and floats.
No idea why they felt compelled to eat the water pistols.
Now I take the pool stuff inside at night.
If you are ok with using an electric fence, I can tell you how I made
mine. Found article on the web, but lost the link. Before I put up the
fence, we had 28 deer lounging in our lawn. Now, none for the last 5
years. We protect about an acre around the house and garden, etc.
The fence is cheap and easy to put up and maintain.
Paul in Central Oregon
Are you in a suburban or rural area?
You have me thinking about doing this - but I'm in Suburbia and wonder
about unintended consequences.
Seems like putting it on a timer that turns it off during daylight hours
would pretty much defuse the kid issue.
My minature poodle had no problem getting over a 4 foot high fence:(
Puddle would run along the fence and LEAP over it.....
This led to many police visits and neighbor issues. :(
Finally solved with a 6 foot chainlink fence. That cost thousands.
We also tried a electric fence, she found that easy to defeat:(
She died several years ago at near 15 years old, and I still miss her.
Her ashes are here to to buried with me when I die......
I had a chuckle one day watching a Mexican soccer player zoom over an 8
ft chain link fence to retrieve a ball. It was like the fence was not
even there. I figured practice makes perfect.
As for protecting from deer, a lot depends on the time of the year.
During the growing season the whole world is just one big salad bar for
deer. A vegetable garden has no big attraction for them. If not easy to
access, bumping into a small fence or electrified fence will tend to
keep them away. Certain foods they really like such as acorns,
chestnuts and apples. They expend more effort to get them. In the dead
of the winter they even eat the ivy along side my house but let it grow
freely in summer. When they are eating your evergreens in the winter
they are starving.
This brings to mind something I've been obsessing about on-and-off for a
couple of years: "YardBa"....
Everybody's heard of "RoomBa", right? i.e. the robotic vacuum cleaners
that can clean a room unattended.
I'm thinking there's a market for something that would live at a
charging station in the yard, sense body heat or movement or
something... and spontaneously navigate towards it. Once contact was
made, it would just keep on bumping up against whatever it was if it
didn't move or keep following it if it did move - constrained by
something like those invisible fences they use with dogs/collars.
Personally, I'd shell out a few hundred bucks for such a device... maybe
A bunch cut.
One thought would be plastic snow fence.
Amazon link: http://tinyurl.com/d2xtg4f
It's only four foot high but highly visible.
Put in several T posts to hold it:
Someone already referenced a post pounder:
I would use concrete around corner posts and gate posts, and just soil
around posts in the middle of a run. Put gravel in the bottom of the hole
for drainage, and stop the concrete a few inches below ground level. Try to
taper the top of the concrete so water will run away from the post.
We have an ongoing love/hate relationship with deer. We really enjoy having
them visit and watching the babies grow up. We don't like that they eat
everything we stick in the ground. I try new "deer resistant" plants every
year to see what works best, and so far they have chomped down every single
"deer proof" plant except for Hellebores. They haven't so much as sniffed
Anyway, deer usually won't jump into a confined area if they don't think
they can get back out. I have heard that two 4' high fences spaced about
5' apart works better than a single 8' high fence.
I've never used anything more than a single 4' high fence around our
vegetable gardens. Our current garden is a small 8x8 raised garden, so
they're not likely to jump in there, especially with the different levels
inside. Even when we had a large 30x30 garden they never jumped in to eat
anything. The only time they jumped in was when they were on the run from a
dog or something, but they were in and out and didn't eat anything.
There's enough easier pickings around our yard for them to bother going
into the garden.
Our raccoons have never expressed an interest in our garden, but we do have
to keep the rabbits out.
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