Europe to ban halogen lightbulbs

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Europe to ban halogen lightbulbs

After nearly 60 years of lighting homes halogens will be replaced with more energy efficient LEDs

After nearly 60 years of brightening our homes and streets, halogen lightbulbs will finally be banned across Europe on 1 September.

The lights will dim gradually for halogen. Remaining stocks may still be sold, and capsules, linear and low voltage incandescents used in oven lights will be exempted. But a continent-wide switchover to light-emitting diodes (LEDs) is underway that will slash emissions and energy bills, according to industry, campaigners and experts.

LEDs consume five times less energy than halogen bulbs and their phase-out will prevent more than 15m tonnes of carbon emissions a year, an amount equal to Portugal's annual electricity usage.

Philips, the lighting manufacturer estimates consumer savings of up to ?112 a year from the switchover because LEDs last much longer than halogens and use far less power.

But that has not stopped a perennial tabloid crusade against interference from Brussels - and the revival of timeworn Brexiteer campaign themes.

Jonathan Bullock, Ukip's energy spokesman in the European parliament told the Guardian: "The EU's attempt to ban halogen bulbs is wrong because consumers will suffer financially and it's always the poorest who suffer most from these kinds of policies."

"Customers should have the freedom of choice in bulbs and it shouldn't be imposed by the EU."

However, with incandescent bans spreading from California to Canberra, any post-Brexit revival might depend on inefficient Chinese bulbs - and these could add ?90 to average energy bills, studies indicate.

At present, halogen bulbs are often individually cheaper than LEDs but extrapolating cost savings from that is "a false economy" according to Stewart Muir, a product manager at the Energy Savings Trust.

Ukip's numbers "just don't add up," he said. "A halogen bulb may be cheaper to buy in the first place but the electricity costs will be much more expensive, whereas an LED bulb will pay for itself within a year."

Halogen bulbs also last for just two years on average, compared to LEDs which have a 15-20 year life expectancy, he said.

The average British home has about 10 halogen lamps and uses each lightbulb for around three hours a day, according to government figures from 2012.

The emissions cost is staggering. Buildings account for about 40% of our energy consumption - and lighting currently accounts for around 15% of that. That gives it a carbon footprint higher than aviation and shipping combined.

Eliot Whittington, the director of the Prince of Wales's corporate leaders group, which campaigns on the issue, said: "The science is clear. We can't allow the human costs of climate change to reach the levels they will, if we fail to act. You ban things that threaten public safety and the wasteful use of energy is dangerous for us all in the end."

Reply to
BurfordTJustice
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We can get them from China after March 2019.

Reply to
Phi

oh they consume minus 4 times the amount do they?

where do I buy these energy creation machines?

tim

Reply to
tim...

They dont need to ban them in the USA. I stopped using them years ago. Halogen bulbs are more trouble than they are worth. They operate very hot and have been known to cause fires. They often have a very short life, particularly those skinny tubes in work lights, which also are known to destroy the sockets when they burn out. Their light color is annoying, And they cost much more than an equivilant incandescant, which uses only a slight amount more of energy. And installing a halogen means wearing gloves to prevent getting skin oils on the glass.

I agree about the LED lights being much better.

The only halogen lights I still have are the headlights in one of my older vehicles. Those I have never had issues with. I guess the low voltage ones are more reliable, but you still need to wear gloves to install them.

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Bud

On Fri 24 Aug 2018 05:14:04a, told us...

Agree with most of your points. However, our two bathrooms have halogen fixtures that are used multiple times daily. We've never had a bulb burn out since they were installed 7 years ago. Each fixture uses three 65watt 110/120volt bulbs.

Reply to
Wayne Boatwright

I'll admit to ignorance. I didn't know people used halogen bulbs for indoor house lighting. I associate halogen with outdoor floods with special fixtures or automotive headlights.

A few years back the electric co-op that I'm in sent everyone a big box of assorted CFL's. Monday I found a box on the deck and didn't remember ordering anything. This time around it was a box of LEDs. They had previously sent a box with a couple of LEDs and low flow shower heads so I'm completely switched over to LEDs now.

The Post Office really loves these projects. Suddenly they're up to their ass with big boxes of light bulbs to deliver to every co-op customer.

Reply to
rbowman

The main thing here is that you should be free to chose what bulbs work best for you. Let the market decide. There is a compelling advantage to LEDs for most applications, there is no need to force them down people's throat with the heavy hand of govt. But it is the lib way.

Reply to
trader_4
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I think of the halogen floor lamps that were popular about 20 years ago, and were sometimes fire hazards.

I would be if I didn't have all those CFLs. I'm not buying any new ones, but it seems that they won't be any less hazardous when they burn out than they are now.

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Mark Lloyd

Yea, those were the worst.

I have a lot of CFL bulbs in the closet. Just before LED became popular and affordable. The CFL bulbs were being sold real cheap.I never liked them, but I felt obligated to use them, since LED was too costly at that time and incan was still available, but banned, and they had become costly. So now i got all these CFL bulbs that I know I will never use. I dont want to toss them in the trash, so I guess Goodwill or another second hand store is gonna get them. I sure dont miss those CFL bulbs. Especially the ones that were in outdoor buildings and they would not work in cold weather.

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Bud
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I have had some especially sick-looking "warm white" CFLs, maybe that's when I really decided to get only real white.

I have given away the unused CFLS. I just haven't decided about the ones I'm currently using. I wasn't sure if it worth replacing those.

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Reply to
Mark Lloyd

I must have missed those. I'm not much into home decor.

I don't keep the cave that warm in the winter so there would be a noticeable lag between 'click' and 'light'.

Reply to
rbowman

That's your personal taste. I prefer halogens to either LEDs or fluorescents.

Cindy Hamilton

Reply to
angelicapaganelli

Especially when some dipshit let the curtains touch them. I had one of those and I'm smart enough to know how to keep it safe.

I've got halogens in my range hood and in some track lighting that we installed in 2016 in the bathroom.

Cindy Hamilton

Reply to
angelicapaganelli

LED comes in two color temperatures. We prefer the whiter light of the "daylight" version. The original fluorescent were a horrid greenish color but they are much better now, but not as good as either halogen or LED.

Reply to
Ed Pawlowski

What I like about both incandescents and halogens is that they don't emit at a single wavelength. Fluorescent and LED light always looks dead to my eyes.

Cindy Hamilton

Reply to
angelicapaganelli

The fixture I have has an additional switch that allows you to select three different color temperatures. I put it on daylight and forgot about it. I can see where some people might want a warmer tone in some rooms with the option to go full white for some activities.

Reply to
rbowman

Ed Pawlowski posted for all of us...

Shouldn't really use incans in a closet either...

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Tekkie®

snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.com posted for all of us...

Get work at the morgue :-)

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Tekkie®

Ed Pawlowski wrote

Some of the Hues come in an infinite variety of color temps.

Yeah, I do too, even tho I used to use PAR38s before changing to Hues.

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Rod Speed

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