I didn't see the original post, but from what I read here it looks like this
"oops" arbor made by Starrett might just do the trick. It allows you to use
two hole saws on one arbor. The "new" larger sized one cuts the properly
sized hole, while the "old" original sized one guides it. I haven't used one
yet, but it seems like a good idea.
Here's the link:
Hope this helps, Peter.
You know, I was thinking that if you clamped your guide hole on top
and a 1/4" piece of ply, or 1/8" piece of masonite on the bottom, the
guide bit for the hole saw may go through the bottom piece (as long as
the blade doesn't get through the door). This would give you a guide
hole for the flip cut without resetting anything.
Just figure out how much clearance you have between the bit and the
I have noticed a decided decrease in the talent level of the HD
employees in the last couple of years. Not that it was ever like the
commercials, with a wise old construction hand in every aisle, but a
lot of the staff seemed to know SOMETHING. Of late the people are
younger and don't seem to have any construction experience at all.
I think it's a combination of cost cutting and one heck of a lot of
construction going on (at least around here - NYC), draining the
Tonight's HD adventure: The light strip over my stove has 4 halogen bulbs.
One is burnt out. The sticker on the outside says "25w type T-4 halogen
bulbs only". Two HD geniuses couldn't marry me to those bulbs, so they
called the guy who was supposedly their electrical specialist. After 5
minutes of staring at the light bulb display, he asked "Are you sure
something else might not fit?" I said "Well....no. I'm not sure. I'm asking
YOU". We ended it there and I moved to the rest of my list.
My goal was to avoid disassembling the silly fixture until I had the new
bulb, since it means leaving the fixture dangling over the stove. So much
Wow, you actually found an employee at a Home Depot? Usually when I go,
there seem to be only two people working, and they are at the checkouts. One
of them is often on the phone, too. This leaves the Self Checkout, which
usually has two of the four terminals operational at any given time, and
about 76 people waiting in line while someone is trying to figure out how to
scan a piece of drywall over the machine, while it complains that "an item
has been removed from the bagging area".
Thank heavens I live in a metropolitan area with a lot of independently
owned contractor warehouses & specialty supply stores... Depot is a measure
of last resort (e.g. on Sundays when everything else is closed). And I must
admit the 24-hour one has come in handy a couple times. But other than that,
I fear Depot like little else.
We don't have self-checkouts here. But, I used one at a supermarket in a
neighboring city while returning from a camping trip. I was carrying a
pistol. After dicking around with the stupid thing for 3 minutes, I found
myself thinking of pulling the pistol and putting the machine out of its
misery. Fortunately, a cooler mind prevailed (girlfriend). :-)
Those things were designed by the same monsters who came up with the
Firebird or Camaro (many years ago) which required loosening an engine mount
to get at the last spark plug.
I occasionally shop in a HD. Usually, the employees are walking
aimlessly through the aisles and basically ignore the customers, unless
you happen to grab one of them. A couple of years ago, a new Lowes was
being built about a quarter mile down the street from the HD. I happen
to go into the HD while the Lowes was still under construction.
Everywhere I went in the HD, almost every employee within 100' of me
came up, greeted me, and asked if I needed help. I knew the reason, and
joked to my wife that they were probably going to add valet parking. :-)
Not at my neighborhood HD. At mine the majority of the customers
either haven't found the self checkout yet, or are too technophobic to
use it. I hope it stays that way forever.
Once you get used to the idea that you must drop each item in the bag
after you scan it, it works pretty well. I even LOOKED UP AN ITEM
MYSELF on the machine when I had an item with no bar code.
My HD is 7 blocks from my house. Since they installed the self
checkout I can make a round trip for a couple of small items in 20
minutes. I also try to plan ahead, buying what I need for Saturday on
a Thursday evening at maybe 9 PM. HD will never be heaven, but on
weekday nights it's at least one of the higher rings of purgatory.
You keep your used masking tape from previous projects? Seems strange
that you're into saving stuff like that, but then want to waste some
bondo and a 1/2 lb. of toothpicks to fill a hole that you're about to
The best solution I read in the original thread was to cut the new
size hole in a scrap of plywood. Clamp this over the old hole, and use
it for a guide. Cut halfway through, then flip the door over and
repeat from the other side. You can ensure correct placement for the
back cut by placing alignment marks on some masking tape (new or old)
on the door edge and on the plywood, then matching them up on the
Waiting for Bondo to set? You're obviously charging by the hour. It
certainly would work reliably though...
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