Nope. Electric rates in most states are
controlled by the state utilities commission,
which has to hold hearings, etc. before every rate
increase or decrease. What happens in Maryland is
irrelevant to the State of Montana.
It's just BGE. We have been paying below market rates for some time,
and now we get to pay the same high rates that everyone else pays.
Presumably this is because in many places they use natural gas to
generate electricity instead of much cheaper nuclear.
On an aside note, when looking at my last BGE bill of $80, only $5.03
of it was for electricity anyway. With all the hook up charges and
other nusiance fees and taxes, a 50% increast in electric rates would
have not affected my bill by much. It will in the summer though.
On 8 Mar 2006 08:06:49 -0800, email@example.com wrote:
Yeah, you're both right. I must have missed it, or forgotten, when I
guess it was the Maryland leglislature or PSC put caps on the bill.
Since I didn't think Md. did it, that left the country as a whole.
Sorry for giving people a jolt, if I did.
Wow. I'll have to pay more attention to my bill.
Something that might interest everyone, even if doesn't apply to them
now, is that BGE has a plan to make making the payments easier.
You don't have to pay the whole thing, and they'll charge you 5% a
year on the part you don't pay, which is more than most people are
earning in a checking account, or even a CD iiuc. They call that a
And not only that, if you don't want this plan, you have to opt OUT.
Otherwise you get the plan. OK now I'm confused. The news didn't say
they send you a bill for the whole thing and you opt out by paying the
whole thing. And the news didn't say they only send a bill for the
minimum. Surely they will send a bill that wll indicate the whole
thing, even if there is also a line with a minimum amount to pay. I
may have to wait until I get the bill in June to know what they mean
by opt-out. Unless one of you clever guys know.
I know BGE has one nuclear power plant, Calvert Cliffs, in southern
Maryland. There is also another on the southern NJ coast and one in
Pa. west of here, but I don't know if BGE** buys electricity from them
or if doing so would get the nuclear rate.
Formerly called BG&E, Baltimore Gas and Electric. A better name if
you ask me.
There is also the Conowingo dam on the Susquenhanna river at or close
to US Route 1.. I don't know how much electricity that makes.
Tuns out Maryland BGE has had price caps for six years, and
electricity has gone up 72% in that time, so there will be a 72%
Which I think they said would average 60 or 64 dollars a month!!!.
Could that be right That would mean the average person pays more than
100 dollars a month now. I really should look at my bill. I can't
believe it is that high,
WBAL news said that gas, oil, and gasoline has gone up 130 to 160
percent during the same time, I forget the exact numbers but
something like that.. Still, I assume they will eventually let BGE
get back any money it has lost over the 6 years by not charging market
BTW, BGE says nothing about this I could find on its webpage, and the
bill payment part of the webpage is the worst I've ever seen.**
Maybe that's because the rates are so low and they don't spend any
money on their on-line data processing department!
**Biggest example. The "Pay my bill" url isn't clear about it, but it
says what one's bill was the last time a bill was issued. If you pay
online, that has no effect on the amount that shows. So if you're not
sure that the payment went through, and you check back to see if the
money owed has gone down, it never will. There isn't even a text
warning about this.
Also, because of a crash, I lost my logon info to the webpage. It
used my email address and account number to send me my User-id, but
it wouldn't send me my password without the name of my first pet. I
only had one thing that might be called a pet, and that name didn't
work. So I wrote them 2 months ago, and they never replied or changed
the way the page worked.
It doesn't matter. What they wanted wasn't actually the name
of your first pet, but the answer that you typed in that box
when you set up your account. (or filled in the form, or whatever.)
It's like things that ask for your mother's maiden name.
Unless you're talking to the Department of Vital Records,
the sensible thing to do is lie.
Well, I did try. I entered Oscar and oscar, and they didnt' work and
other than them I have no idea what to enter.
LOL Unfortunately, I lied when I signed up for my first Yahoo email
account, about birthday and one other thing, and didn't keep notes
where I could find them,and when I lost the password, I couldn't
remember what I had said and never got the account back again.
MyHomeRep@bge wrote me today, just 12 hours after I wrote them, and
reset my password, but didnt' say a word about the original
instructions to write techrep@bge , which never replied to me at all,
or the other problems.
I'll see if it asks me to choose a pet's name when I enter a new
password. No it didn't, but it' might be still using the old one.
Maybe my bill is interesting.
**rate will go up by 74% in June.
type of da KwH Avg Avg outside
reading ys dly temp
Feb 06 Actual 28 549 19.6 39 Cost 45.00**,
Jan 06 Actual 34 659 19.4 39
Feb 05 Actual 29 677 23.3 32 Last year 7 degrees
(I had a warm air leak last year. Not sure how big. or how much
extra electicity that would use since I have oil heat.)
I can't tell if the difference in Februarys is how much I used the
lights, or how much the 7 degree difference in outside temp accounts
for the difference from 19.6 to 23.3 KwH/day, from 549 to 654 KwH (28
days for each year.).
**rate will go up by 74% in June. My bills for the previous two
months totalled 102 dollars. I live alone in a townhouse, electric
stove, electric hot water, oil heat. I use microwave. I don't cook
much. . I guess the biggest single use, maybe the majority of my use,
is hot water for daily tub baths. Maybe I should cut back.
If I heat 50 gallons of water from maybe 40 or 50 degrees outside in
the winter to 120 or 140 (I forget), I should be able to calculate how
many KwH that takes out of the 19.6 KwH I use every day.
100 degrees F delta X 50 gallons = x KwH ??
True, the BGE webpage does not in any explain the 72% deal. I have no
idea if there is a 72% inclease in the electric only part of the bill
(the $5 quotes above) or the rate hike is so high that the average
overall bill will be 72% higher. Since writing that part above I have
found many other people who say mow much of their total bill is really
nusiance fees that won't change (like close to 50%) so if it's only for
the electricity, then a 72% increase really isn't so bad. However, if
the 11.5 cents/kwh is the real new rate, than that's almost 3X what I'm
paying now. As per their usual the news media is not reporting this
On 10 Mar 2006 16:48:33 -0800, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
The online statement only had totals. I forgot about the question of
how much is attributed to electric use, as opposed to fixed charges..
I'll have to check my printed bill, and then like you I'll have to
wait to see what items increase.
I just got my National Grid Bill [Upstate NY]-- as I was filing it I
looked at the last 3 bills--
[first number is what the bill says I'm paying per KWh - second,
bracketed number is after all the surcharges, taxes, delivery, etc]
11.8cents/KWh - [12.5cents/KWh]
8.8cents/KWh - [14.6cents/KWh]
7.9cents/KWh - [16cents/KWh]
So my cost per KWh has gone down nearly 30%, but what I'm paying has
gone up 22%.
I have the second number in a spreadsheet along with my electric usage
going back to 1995. Until January the *real* cost has stayed
between 10.5 & 12.9cents/KWh for the last 9 years.
In NY utilities are regulated by a Public Service Commission- they
approved the buyout of Niagara Mohawk by National Grid and said that
National Grid would lower electric costs to the consumer. Well, they
lowered the price per KWh on the bill, anyway.
Does anyone know when BGE will collect the full %100 percent of the
rate increase that went into effect in July? Currently they are collecting
%15 of the increase as directed by the state of Maryland....
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