I have a downhill blacktop driveway with a turn around. I would like to make the driveway look better. I got to wondering if I could make my own 4x4x 2 inches concrete "tiles" and place them in a bed of mortar on top of my blacktop driveway?
I have been wanting to buy a concrete mixer and thought of mixing my own concrete (Portland cement, sand, and gravel). Is this possible? Can I do this myself?
I appreciate it!
On Tuesday, March 24, 2015 at 8:58:49 AM UTC-4, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
2 inch too thin, they will crack. plus if the asphalt base driveway is cracking or falling apart, your tiles will break bad in those areas. bed of mortar? asphalt must be really bad?
probably cheaper better and less work to either patch the driveway as best a possible, and seal it, with the filler type sealer.
it may not be perfect but it will look tremendously better
On 03/24/2015 07:58 AM, email@example.com wrote:
Don't do it.
In rain or snow they will be hazardously slippery and on incline even
worse. Blacktop gives good traction and if it's in bad shape, you can
put sealer on it and if applied properly will make it look like new again.
IOn Tuesday, March 24, 2015 at 8:34:04 AM UTC-5, philo wrote:
make the driveway look better. I got to wondering if I could make my own 4
x4x 2 inches concrete "tiles" and place them in a bed of mortar on top of m
y blacktop driveway?
n concrete (Portland cement, sand, and gravel). Is this possible? Can I do
Let me ask this, if I were to keep the blacktop, since it is in fairly roug
h shape, can I "overlay new asphalt on top of the old? I have a hot mix asp
halt plant nearby and can get it for 69 dollars a ton in my trailer. I woul
d have to make something to roll it or rent one of those vibratory compacto
rs that looks like a lawn mower.
On Tuesday, March 24, 2015 at 10:17:21 AM UTC-5, philo wrote:
to make the driveway look better. I got to wondering if I could make my own
4x4x 2 inches concrete "tiles" and place them in a bed of mortar on top of
my blacktop driveway?
own concrete (Portland cement, sand, and gravel). Is this possible? Can I d
o this myself?
rough shape, can I "overlay new asphalt on top of the old? I have a hot mix
asphalt plant nearby and can get it for 69 dollars a ton in my trailer. I
would have to make something to roll it or rent one of those vibratory comp
actors that looks like a lawn mower.
Can you not just shovel the hot asphalt, spread with a rake, and rent a vib
ratory tamper to tamp it?
On 03/24/2015 03:35 PM, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
I suppose you could but I predict it would start breaking up pretty
soon. It would be a lot of work and there are too many ways it could go
With the sealer, you should be able to do it yourself without having to
rent extra equipment.
you don't understand my driveway is in not that good a shape it has been rough textured from the beginning and lots of cracks bird baths and other depressions a sailor is not going to cover these up I don't believe
On 03/24/2015 06:43 PM, email@example.com wrote:
If a "sailor" can't do the job, then get a soldier to do it!
All kidding aside, if it's get cracks in it, the sealer will fill them.
If it's got deep depressions, the sealer may only partially fill them.
On Tue, 24 Mar 2015 07:46:12 -0700 (PDT), firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
rough shape, can I "overlay new asphalt on top of the old? I have a hot
mix asphalt plant nearby and can get it for 69 dollars a ton in my
trailer. I would have to make something to roll it or rent one of those
That "carry your own" asphalt is made for potholes and patches. Trying
to re-do a whole driveway seems like a big hassle without machinery. By
the time you shovel it in place it will be cold. The trucks that do it
on roads, have a heater inside the machine that applies it. Before
applying it, they coat the old asphalt with a hot spray on tar to make
sure it adheres. The machine that applies it, not only heats it, but
levels it, and makes it smooth. Then another guy drives a large roller
machine over it, which shoots out a spray of water, so the roller dont
adhere to the asphalt.
I have seen asphalt applied over old asphalt and over concrete. The
method is about the same.
I like to DIY most stuff, but this is one of those thing best left to
the professionals. Actually, you really dont need to know much, you
just need the proper machinery to do it.
As far as your paver idea, I'll just agree with that others have said.
That is just too much work....
On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 2:31:57 AM UTC-4, email@example.com wrote:
Even if you quickly spread the asphalt out and used a compactor
on it, I would think it would come out very uneaven compared to
what you get by rolling it. But then, who knows? I've never tried
it or seen it done. How big is the driveway, how many loads would
it take, can it all be done at once, etc are other considerations.
I DIY on a lot of things, that is one that I wouldn't attempt.
On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 9:33:46 AM UTC-4, philo wrote:
I don't think traction is an issue with most commercially
available pavers. They are widely used for driveways, approach aprons,
patios, etc. and I've never heard of them being slippery,
unless you apply a sealer. The surface of all the ones I've seen
is relatively rough.
Plus, the guy is proposing to roll his own pavers out of
concrete. Concrete is widely used for driveways, roads, etc.
Why would concrete pavers be slippery?
On 3/24/2015 7:58 AM, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Depending on the degree of slope you may have a problem stabilizing
I know of a driveway with only a very slight slope where this was done
(pavers over asphalt) and it has held tight for nearly ten years. The
underlying asphalt was in good condition, the owner is a car nut and
just wanted a classier looking driveway to complement his new
three-car garage and workshop. But I don't know about pavers holding
tight on a surface with a definite pitch, especially in areas where
the freeze/thaw cycle is a regular thing.
How thick is the asphalt and what sort of a bed is it on? Pavers need a
decent bed, about 6" IIRC, well compacted.
What condition is the asphalt in? Regardless, I would be thinking about
getting it ground up and used as a bed for the pavers. I wouldn't try to
mortar them in, even if the bed were not asphalt (won't stick to it).
How much of a slope? Pavers need restraints on all sides, not just
You could make your own pavers but it would be a ton of work. Two ways come
1. Molded: Pour concrete in, separate when dry. The mold sides would need
to be slightly sloped so the concrete could come out. After pouring into
mold, the 'crete should be vibrated so it will settle and fill the molds.
Setting them wide side down gives you the space to add sand after setting.
2. Cut: you could pour a small slab - needs to be uniform thickness - then
cut into desired sizes after setting but still green. Commercial pavers
have small nibs on the sides to automatically leave a space between them to
sand them in.
If you like grey, you are home free. If not, you'd have to add color. Two
1. Color added to the concrete mix gives color all the way through. Best
2. Color can be added to the top after pouring, gives a very thin layer of
Regardless of how they are colored, concrete pavers will wear and weather
allowing the aggregate to be very obvious. That's why I use clay bricks at
my house, no aggregate and the color is "forever".
I doubt it.
I suggest you measure your driveway and divide the total area by 16
square inches. (The size of your 4x4 paver.)
You'd be making those pavers for a really long time.
Pavers are a good solution for people that can afford them.
Blacktop is one of the cheaper solutions, but it makes no sense
to do blacktop as a DIY project.
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