Crimp sleeve or alternate ideas...

[Rod Speed]

[dpb]

OK, makes sense...couldn't tell what the crop was. No rice anyways near here...

The convenience of the well at the middle hard to beat. There's plenty of ground to give up the corners... :) There are lateral systems on smaller tracts back east and out in some of the mountain valleys for hay, etc., and they're pretty common in the desert SW for their specialty crops, too.

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Actually Heifer Source isn't feedlot but a dairy calf-rearing facility producing milkers.

Getting to be more altho towards the northern end of the degree-days boundary but since takes less water is making inroads...plus some newer varieties better adapted.

Sunflowers, canola, some potatoes (under contract to MickeyD's), grain sorghum (milo) besides the wheat and corn...

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[dpb]

On 5/7/2019 7:21 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote: ...

Actually, yes, it is...they come from all over the world; some specifically for it.

Pretty amazing to me, too, even though served on the museum board for a number of years that it continues to have such a following--but, it provides a significant fraction of the revenue stream to keep the museum afloat.

[Rod Speed]

We don’t use wells here, its all river water.

There is a massive feedlot there too.

Plenty of all those here, and vast amount of non irrigated too.

[Dean Hoffman]

Still some flood here in east central Nebraska. It's gated pipe and water running down the furrows in between the corn or soybean rows. Most is center pivots by now. They're more efficient with both the water and labor. We get about 26" of moisture annually and corn needs about that much for a good yield. It's not at the right time, of course.

We have a few lateral moves here. They're on ground the seed companies own or rent. Mycogen, Pioneer, and Syngenta are all within about 30 miles. Linears do a lot better job of getting the water on evenly than pivots. The seed companies want even watering to make evaluating their seed varieties more consistent. Linears are a lot more expensive than pivots and require more labor. Getting the water to them is tougher.

A lot of the pivots here have corner arms added to them. The arms steer out into the corners and tuck in behind the main system on the sides of the fields.

[Rod Speed]

Dean Hoffman [e-mail] wrote

Very little of ours is done that way now, mostly just some of the trees and grapes etc.

The cotton is mostly done differently with manually installed pipes for each row, again from the main open supply channel. Again, this is river/dam waters.

Rice isnt done with furrows, much bigger bays and they have standing water in the entire bay.

Hardly any of ours is center pivot, mostly lateral move. But then none of the water is from bores, its all from rivers and so lateral move works better with those, no lost land at the corners.

This area was done in the 1920s mostly with the channels being done by horse drawn scoops with the main supply channel being done with this f****ng great machine which moved under its own power to this area after being assembled here.

Lateral moves are more efficient again.

Most of the trees and grapes etc are done with drip.

Yeah, this area produces most of the corn in the country.

Not here, they have a channel along one side of the paddock and it just has the intake in that.

Lateral moves work better here because of the water channels instead of bores

[Clare Snyder]

More dairy products from the USA come into Canada than Canadian into the USA

[TimR]

When I was a kid growing up in northern Wisconsin, dairy was pretty much it. Too short a season to grow much beside hay.

My house, like most in my town, had an insulated aluminum box outside the door. The dairy truck drove by in the morning, collected the empty milk bottles, and left a full one.

If you were a farm kid you were up at 0400 helping with chores. After an hour on the bus you had math class. No chance to stay awake or concentrate.

[devnull]

Maybe some of us don't want filthy canadian cows?

[dpb]

On 5/10/2019 2:07 PM, dpb wrote: ...

So, I got curious...

A very nominal increase in the import quotas -- from before the deal 3 percent of total Canadian dairy sales, the magic threshold before the high tariffs kick is all the way up to 3.59 percent of total Canadian dairy sales. Wow! Since US production is, like the ratio of US:Canada GDP roughly 10:1, that means <0.05% increase in market volume to US.

The potentially somewhat more beneficial agreement is USMCA also commits Canada to raising the support price for ultra-filtered milk-—the concentrate used as base for cheese and other products. At least up to the quota, it would be roughly fair market, but the very high tariffs remain in effect after so the market is still effectively capped.

Saw somewhere while looking it's costing Toronto >$2.6 B/yr to support the program.

[dpb]

Senile moment...OTTOWA, not Toronto, sorry.

[Clare Snyder]

OttAwa - and it doesn't cost Ottawa anything either. It costs Canadians. About $70 per person if your numbers are correct. For that price we have a vital, sudtainable dairy industry.

You pay US$ 3.50 a gallon for milk (About $.73 canadian - or $1.25 per liter.. I pay $4.39 for 4 liters - so about $1.10 per liter - 15 cents a liter less than the average US price. The average Canadian drinks 77 liters of milk and cream per year - not counting chease, butter, ice cream, etc.

Meanwhile 73% of US dairy producer returns are comprised of government subsidies - about US$21 billion per year.

Big Agribusiness produces the majority of US milk, while family farming business produces the majority of Canadian milk - with farmer owned co-operatives processing much of those dairy products. - AgroPur and Gay Lea are farmer owned processors - and the largest dairy processors in Canada.

[dpb]

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Having been through a round of rough weather last several days got me wondering -- you get yours from thunderstorms with hail, tornado threats as is so much of ours or does it "just rain"?

We did miss the heavy stuff this go-round; nearest tornadoes about 30 miles east; did get almost 1.5" rain; central part of state is flooded with as much as 8-10" over a week to 10-day period.

There's occasionally some advantage to being farther west nearer the rain shield, too...

[dpb]

Well, I just got the new electronic module installed -- none of the supplied mounting hardware comes even close to matching this oven; had to modify the existing bracket to align the controls with the existing knob locations by over 1/8" -- fortunately was enough material to file out the hole locations enough.

It looks somewhat out of place with the rest of the range but one will eventually get used to it; the big surprise is that the problem with the oven cleaning cycle I had never been able to diagnose the cause for the oven lock solenoid to not lock to start the cycle appears to have actually been that set of contacts in the clock module -- so there was a failure there that I had not previously attributed to the clock.

So, not only do have working handles/manner in which to set the clock/time conveniently again, got the self-cleaning function back again as well as a bonus!

Sometimes "newer is better" :)

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[dpb]

On 5/22/2019 8:26 AM, dpb wrote: ...

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[Rod Speed]

We don’t get tornados here. We do get cyclones, but we don’t get those in my part of the country, the SE corner, we only get those in the top half of the country. They are a completely different weather phenomenon to a tornado. You do get something similar in the south of your country and further south in the bahamas etc too.

We do get very heavy downpours at times, not just steady rain.

We don’t normally get that much in that sort of time, rarely more than say 5" in this part of the country. Can be much higher than that in the top half of the country and that’s always with a cyclone.

There is no rain shield here, much too flat for that.

[dpb]

Apparently so...I had put off in-depth digging as could never find wiring diagram but the clock module/relay I had never suspected.

I'm curious where you saw anything specific about the timer; I had never come across that in all the searching for parts, etc., ...

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[Clare Snyder]

Goes back a few years to bulletins I got from a supplier when the last NOS timers dissapeared from the market - and a timer repair company I dealt with to get a timer repaired. There were several timers they could not provide service for because the entire stock of replacement parts had been consumed. They had commissioned a run of new EL displays for my particular timer - and were down to the last dregs because it ALSO had a higher than anticipated failure rate.

I noticed a reference to the high failure rate of yours again while researching it to see what you needed. Can't remember where it was though.

[dpb]

I kinda' figured likely scenario. US High Plains and towards the SouthEast is pretty much unique in the frequency of tornadoes and truly severe t-storms w/ gigantic hail.

The cyclone is a hurricane in the Northern and Western hemispheres...same thing, different name. We have the occasional near or low-grade hurricane depth low pressure systems with associated winds on the rare occasion as well -- once in 5-10 yr or so, maybe. Often when they do come it's late winter very early spring and will be a doozy of a blizzard. One actually occurred early March this year with 75-85 mph sustained winds and snow...not a great event with cattle out on wheat pasture.

They're getting it again tomorrow just east of us -- 2-4" more on places with a foot or more in last two weeks with some localized areas predicting another 3-6". We're on the western edge of the severe weather watch zone for this round so we'll just have to "hide and watch"...supposed to be moving cows/calves to summer pasture in the morning; may be interesting exercise.

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[Clare Snyder]

There are some parts to the latch that are really fun to make replacements for too - - - - would be easy (er) with a full machine shop