Without exposure to a person having a contagious
virus or whatever, you can believe it, I am a loner, having
been widowed and carrying the torch for 45 years.
I spend a summer in Las Vegas, 1 percent and 115 degrees
was perfect for me.
I am not a doctor and I did not claim a cure,
the suggested methods of prevention listed at the link
you provided are almost identical to what I do, except
my kids are fifty-ish and not in school.
No, I don't believe it, and neither would any logical person. Of
course if you can deny the well-established cause of the common cold,
then I suppose you won't have any trouble denying that you're
illogical as well.
Being a widower hardly prevents human contact. All you need to do is
put your hands on a grocery buggy for example and you can make contact
with a virus.
Maybe you can tell us how many different bacterial
and viral diseases go by the name "common cold".
If you premise were correct, if nobody got a cold
all summer, then there would be no cold germs around.
I see you claim as requiring that the total reservoir
of cold germs are in the nasal passages and airways of
I have to think the germs are more widespread than
that, and exist with or without humans.
The link you provided seems to say that colds are
the result of the germs overwhelming the immune system,
and that it is possible for a person to be exposed and still
ward off the bad cold.
Are you claiming that a person gets a cold just
because they come in contact with somebody with a cold,
and never get a cold otherwise?
Why would I do that? Any web search you do will show that there are
hundreds, but that none are called "dry nose" or whatever.
No, that doesn't follow at all. Being exposed to a virus doesn't mean
you'll catch a cold. Yet it's both easy to come into contact with a
virus, and difficult for the virus to take hold. You can dramatically
increase the odds of avoiding affliction by using common sense, such
as hand washing before putting your hands near your face after
visiting a crowded store full of kiddies for example.
I'm getting that you see the facts however you like.
How would that help rationalize your belief that colds aren't always
caused by "germs"?
Of course. And IIRC, if one has already been exposed to a particular
virus, then one is unlikely to develop a cold from further exposure to
the same virus.
I'm not claiming anything, just telling you the facts. You can't catch
a cold without being exposed to a virus.
And the evidence for that last is that those who 'live' in isolated
environments like lighthouses etc dont ever get colds regardless
of what the room humidity is, because there are no viruses around.
Its less clear scientifically whether the room humidity has any effect
on the infection rate when there are viruses around. Its unlikely in
my opinion and the most likely reason why so many older people
dont get colds anymore is likely just because they are immune to
the vast bulk of cold seen, just because they have had so much
more exposure to them than say kids ever get, just due to the
vastly higher number of years of exposure to them and the fact that
its been carefully established that there are so many strains extant.
An interesting study (can't remember where I read it), showed a strong
correlation between elderly catching colds/flu and visits from grade-school
children. Those visited by adults caught fewer colds than those visited by
children. Presumably the children are great 'carriers' of the viruses/germs
that cause colds/flu. (or colds aren't really caused by viruses, they are
caused by children :-) )
Another study followed transmission (bacteria IIRC) between
kindergartners in class. Summary - if a dab of peanut butter is put
under a classroom chair leg, five minutes later every kid in the class
will have some peanut butter on them. I think that anybody who's
worked with roofing tar can relate. :-)
Well of course colds are caused by virsuses (virii??). But if someone's
natural defenses are weakened, doesn't that make them more susceptable to
infection? If your sinuses are cracked and bleeding, isn't it more likely
you will 'catch' one of those viruses floating around in a closed space?
The nasal passages are our first line of defense against such airborne
infection. If some folks sinuses are particularly sensitive to drying, it
seems quite logical that airborne infections have a better chance of taking
hold in the body and causing illness.
From your article by the Mayo Clinic, on 'risk factors' :
"Some researchers theorize that cold constricts blood vessels in the nose,
slowing the white cells that fight infection and disrupting the first-line
defense against germs. "
This supports the belief that your nose is the 'first-line defense against
germs'. So doing something to keep from degrading its ability seems only
Sure, but he's claiming that he can get a cold by (effectively)
weakened defenses alone, as in, without a virus being present to
defend against. That's pretty much the same as the old-wives tale
about wet hair causing colds.
That argument can go on infinitum but since they are all only theories
and nobody can actually prove them, there are many other "germ"
theories out there, including the one Pasteur (inventor of our modern
day "germ theory") went to his death bed with, that there is no "germ"
outside the human body and they are all constantly within and brought
forth by triggering substances.
I believe the culture dish and molds from nothing had something to do
with the change in his lifelong theories.
On 19 Sep 2006 14:57:58 -0400, email@example.com wrote:
Unfortunately you'll catch up.
Buildings today seem to be getting away from
natural and passive systems and moving toward more
complex active systems that require energy.
My house has transoms, but they were painted
shut when A/C became available and never used again.
In 1943 I was assistant manager of an 800 seat
theater, and it had a passive warm weather ventilation
system that I had no appreciation for at the time.
The roof had a center section that was higher,
and windows tilted in on both side walls of that high
section. There were huge vent ducts which were
not noticeable with floor grilles.
With a large crowd, the heat generated per
person increased the natural convection out those
top windows, drawing air in the hidden floor ducts.
On really hot days there were huge low speed
fans in those ducts, but they rarely were needed.
If removing moisture with dehumidifiers for
a family of four in a home in winter is an engineering
problem in the classroom, then there a lot of homes
that are apparently too moist, because there are few
if any dehumidifiers used in homes other than in
basements or laundry rooms.
There was a program on TV a few years ago
that showed a southern home with the same type of
natural ventilation as the theater I mentioned.
And there has been some mention that
some pyramids were constructed the same way.
Passive solar and natural convection ventilation
systems seem to have been replaced by more positive
systems that require energy, but that do provide more
capacity at any time (as long as the grid is up).
On 20 Sep 2006 05:39:06 -0400, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
From large inverted J ducts on the roof, like
those seen on ships.
Everything was so automatic, needing very
little attention, even though I was the only person
besides the cashier and projectionists there, nothing
required my intervention except opening the top
windows seasonally and tapping on the air traps
on the low pressure steam radiators to get steam
to them occasionally in heating season.
A freeway took the site in 1962.
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