I'm looking for product recommendations and advice
on reconstructing an old concrete basement.
The house I'm renting (1930's or so) has a 5' x 10'
buckled/missing floor section where a tree root
has put pressure on it. I'd like to know if there's
any point to putting down a new patch over the area,
and, if so, what type of repair material is
Also, I'd like to put down some sort of sealer/paint
over the whole basement floor - a 6' basement doesn't
allow much clearance for flooring! ;)
All advice & suggestions are welcome. Since the
landlord has offered to pay (within reason) for the
materials, this seems a good opportunity to learn
about concrete repair!
quit playing in your landlord's basement and go buy your own house and
fix it. :)
that basement may have
problems, so let's avoid this project and recommend the landlord to a
shorter friend of yours when you move to a house with more habitable
any chance the tree root is heading into the sewer for a drink? if
there are tree roots pulled out by the sewer cleaning company like
there are in the old sectional sewer lines in the older homes in
buffalo ny, the cure here seems to be the pvc sewers that don't leak
and attract the roots like in suburbia here where those tree roots
sounds like insufficient thickness of concrete and if you are
personally making a one man project out of this size of a job of 5' by
10' you'll never get finished mixing up all those cubic feet of
concrete by hand and having them look even.
better to look over all the concrete that's cracked at the property and
measure it all up including the basement for a concrete outfit's
estimate, for tear-out, properly tamped gravel, and trucked in and
installed and finished concrete.
Heh. Would if I could! It's not an option ATM, unfortunately. :(
Let's say "more than one of the above". Don't know the radon
sitch, but the HiEff furnace shouldn't be a CO problem.
Well, the upstairs is really nice, it's inexpensive (for
obvious reasons) and it's in a nice, convenient neighborhood
- you know how it is.
Just as a point of pride, when I go I'd like to leave it in
better shape than when I arrived.
Quite probably; it heads in that general direction.
I guess my biggest question is that, since the damage
appears to be quite old (dust, detritus, etc.) is there
a chance the upward pressure has ceased?
Otherwise, yeah, a patch doesn't stand a chance...
Judging by eye, I'd say 2 inches over a layer of sand,
and whatever is below that. Remember, this *is* a
You could be right. I don't have much concrete
experience; that's another potential benefit to
practicing here: I get the experience and the
short-term benefits, the LL gets the mistakes.
And no, I'm *not* saying I'd do anything
That might be what happens eventually. I can always
get estimates. Then again, maybe the landlord
doesn't *want* to know (those basement walls seem kind
of crumbly, but that's a whole other thread! :)
If the tree is still alive, there is no reason to try and patch
anything. You need to fix the cause of the problem first.
You could try an epoxy paint product, often listed for use in a garage.
You will need to do some serious cleaning of the existing floor first and in
an enclosed basement the fumes from the cleaning materials could be a
serious problem. Not doing a proper job of cleaning means you are totally
wasting your time and money.
I suggest that it is a better time to learn that landlords are
responsible for keeping their properties up and it is totally their
responsibility for maintenance.
That's what I was wondering, whether it might have
stopped growing under that section at some point...
If not, is there any option that does not involve a
backhoe and an axe?
That's the kind of product I had in mind, and yeah, I
suspect I'd have to leave the doors open and the furnace
fan going. Definitely a project for warmer weather.
I absolutely agree. If I wanted to be a dick about it,
I could try to force him to get the repairs done, then
watch him jack up the rent on the newly-improved
Or I can DIY the repairs I can do, keep his cost down,
and enjoy the benefits AND the low rent.
And even if he decides to up the rent after it all, I can
leave having gained experience at DIY.
How do I not win?
I have done things like this.cheap rent often equals landlord who
doesnt care. pay me one way or other
Some thoughts any idea of the tree, and its location. As long as it
isnt right on top of the house you can trim the roots. As long as the
tree is far away you cant kill it, no more than pruning branches will
trees are actually very dedicated to living,,,, hatchet, pickax,
lopping shears. I had to do that here, to install new basement toilet,
underside of house full of roots
roots can go a LONG ways in search of water. Many times you can tell
the type of tree from the appearance of its roots:) Uncover some take
photo to garden center, its worth a try.
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