Has this become very common lately? I know that dollar stores have always
sold Chinese crap and I have avoided that. But recently I ordered an extra
wall plug in for our Iphone 5's and it wasn't an Apple product. Ordered
from Ebay. Never again. The thing was a joke! The prongs on it looked
weird and wouldn't even go into the outlet.
Just now I needed to order a new GE stove burner. Seems that the same thing
is happening over at Amazon. I had seen on the news that there have been
complaints of knockoffs. Well, it seems that they are doing it with stove
burners. Show a picture of the genuine GE thing but that's not what people
are getting. At least that's what the reviews say.
I once had a burner go bad in an old apartment. Not sure how old the stove
was. Probably pretty old. I had walked into the other room when all of a
sudden I heard what sounded like one of those whistling fireworks.
Whistling Pete/Piccolo Pete. I looked towards the noise, saw blue sparks
hitting the ceiling, then heard a "bang". All went silent. No more sparks,
but I then hear water. It was water leaking out of my pan that I was
boiling pasta in. Somehow the very tip (outside of coil) became super
heated and literally blew right off, shooting sparks and shooting a hole in
my pan! Landlord fixed the stove for me.
But after witnessing that, there is no way I am taking a chance on a Chinese
knockoff. I ordered straight from GE where I know I am getting the right
Now that I think of it, it's not just electrical things. I ordered what I
thought were Tom's shoes from their outlet. What I got was a joke. Tiny
shoes that maybe appeared from a distance to be that brand but were very
This is frustrating, especially if I need something that I can't find in a
store and have to get online. Anyone else been burned by bogus parts? Or
defiantly not cheap out for those 115v to USB adapters for iPhones.
I've heard of people getting electrocuted.
Also, the cord itself for the iPhone is a piece of crap...yes the
genuine Apple product. Even though they will supposedly exchange it
free...they only last a few months.
I got a Belkin cord for my wife and after four months there is no sign
of wear. For all I know it's made in China too...but where ever it's
made Belkin is a good product.
What you mean? Apple is made in China too, LOL! Expect some quality
stuff from Amazon or Dollar store? There are things you buy from there
and things you go to specialty store. Chinese knock off has difference
is quality too. Again you get what you pay for. An example, I have a
high end home theater gear; AV receiver, speakers, all made in China.
Their quality is very high justifying the high price. For an example
look at the price for an Anthem AV receiver or Paradigm speakers.
In some cases, a part manufactured in China is all you're going to find so
it's a toss up between 'genuine GE made in China' and 'GE knockoff made in
Amazon seems good at dealing with the problem. I ordered 3 Photon
microlights; 2 were Photon's and the third was a cuckoo. It worked but had
an obscure Chinese battery and the light color was a little different. I
emailed Amazon customer service, told them it was defective but it wasn't as
advertised. They refunded the price and I noticed the third party
distributor was no longer listed. I don't know how the 'sold by X fulfilled
by Amazon' or 'sold and shipped by X' relationships work but Amazon does
seem to prune the knockoff shops.
I very seldom look on eBay but other than the seller rating I think it's
more of a crapshoot.
The major issue is cheap counterfeits marketed as the genuine article.
If they're not marketed as genuine/OEM parts, then it is strictly
buyer beware. There are wide variances in quality of manufacture and
you have no way of knowing if it is a quality product before
purchasing it. An awful lot of third party electrical/electronic goods
manufactured in China are either not UL certified or have counterfeit
When a foreign company to contract with a Chinese manufacturer to
produce their product, it's fairly common for the manufacturer to not
only manufacture the genuine product, but to then make and sell
knockoff versions of the product, usually produced with inferior
materials or modified designs. Worst case scenario is when the Chinese
manufacturer sees the market opportunity for a new product from a
small overseas company and steals the design and market share by
making and marketing their own versions of the product while
deliberately stalling the production of the official product for that
company that came up with it in the first place. That happened to a
small local company in my area.
Intellectual property theft is huge in China. It's one of the prices
companies pay for having their goods produced there. Basically, for
every legitimate unit produced, they can expect to have a number of
illegitimate units produced, sold out the back door, and competing
with their own products.
My husband once wanted to buy a watch for his mom. He told the clerk that
he wanted one made in the USA. She just sort of blinked at him. Said there
I don't really even care where things are made. I know that the USA doesn't
produce much any more and if it is produced here, it's likely to be very
I just don't want people selling things and claiming them to be something
that they're not.
On Thursday, June 19, 2014 3:41:40 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
If you have a link to this Amazon listing, I'm sure we'd all be
interested in seeing it. From what you've said, I believe what
you're saying is:
1 - You didn't actually buy a burner there, just read reviews.
2 - The listing shows a picture of a GE burner, but the one they
ship is not GE.
It would be interesting to see the whole thing, in context. If
they are doing what is claimed, then people should be complaining
to Amazon, asking for their money back, etc. And if they don't
correct it, Amazon should shut them down.
As for the USA not making much of anything, that's not true. We are
the second largest manufacturer in the world, with China only recently
having past us. Just because we don't make cheap consumer products,
doesn't mean we aren't building computers, microprocessors, airplanes,
power plants, etc.
On Thursday, June 19, 2014 8:02:18 PM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
For the above, it says in the title "Exact Replacement". To me that only
means that it conforms to the correct form, fit and function. And in
the description it clearly says "Generic Ers30m1 Ge Range Surface Elements"
Generic sure doesn't mean GE to me.
It's like buying a heater hose for a 2005 Honda. If it's says
exact replacement, it means the hose fits, nothing special needs to
be done. It doesn't mean it came from Honda.
That one shows the GE logo in the crude pic and also says "genuine GE"
and "by GE"in the description. If that was not a real GE part, then I agree, it's fraud. People should complain and Amazon should boot them.
That one also says "by GE", so I'd say if it's not, then it's
I don't blame you. I have no problem buying a decent aftermarket part.
In autos it's done all the time. Independent repair shops use aftermarket
parts all the time. Most are perfectly fine and cost half what the
genuine BMW or whatever would cost. Some are even made by the same
manufacturer. But when they try to trick you into believing that it's
a real GE and it's not, I say it's fraud. Of those ads, the first was
honest. the other two, if they are not real GE, then I say it's fraud.
Just like that POS John Deere riding mower I bought at the dealer and not at
Lowes.. That model has a history of the transaxel going out after 300 or so
hours. Mine did. That is the last thing I will buy from them.
Just junk made to the lowest standrd and price.
Many years ago Japan had a bad reputation for junk, but now many of the
beter quality items can be bought from them, cars and electronics
China has some good items also. YOu just have to pay for them. I have
bought a few things from China off ebay and don't even see how they can ship
it here for what they sell it for including shipping. The quality of the
items was fine for the price I payed.
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