" snipped-for-privacy@optonline.net" wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@a8g2000yqp.googlegroups.com:
A real fun read. Especially once you realize that it's mostly the original
1970s code with the original inch/foot measure directly translated to funky modern Metric (38mm = 1.5"; 1.2m = 4', etc.), and more restrictions on swimming pools and barbed wire.
I never said you could.
It's perfectly clear, actually. Leza said so in her very first post. Look it up. She might actually be someplace like Weston, Downsview, or East York, but those are all "Toronto" for all legal purposes.
Sure is. And I see nothing at all in the code that prohibits Leza from installing a 4-foot chain-link fence to the sidewalk, as she wants to do.
I don't know about the pricing, but if you check with a few more companies who do fencing in your area you'll probably get a fairly accurate estimate of what is reasonable and what is too much.
It looks like one or more of the properties in the back already have chain link fences, so yours may fit in with and be similar to what is already there.
One other option is to just run the fence from the back corner of your house out to near the "border" (boundary, property line, etc), and then back from there to the back corner of the property. It looks like there is a fence between your property and the one next to it. If there is already a fence across the back of the property, then your new fence would be fencing in the back yard. I don't know if you need to put a fence along the house itself since all that is there is a walkway. And, for defining the property line, you probably don't need a fence out to the front street/sidewalk area (in my opinion). In other words, maybe less fencing will do what you want, and of course would cost less. And, it may look better.
Looks like you have a shared driveway. Make sure the fence is on your prop erty. Might require a land surveyor to establish the property lines. Your neighbors might have prescriptive rights to drive on your few feet of land , so, even if it's on your property you might have some issues.
Ivan Vegvary (retired Civil Engineer, retired Land Surveyor)
What it mostly is, the date, etc is irrelevant. What it says about restrictions on fences is what matters.
Well you sure implied to somebody that doesn't know what they are doing that they could:
" I can't see the city having a problem with that or with your proposed gate. "
And you never once said, you need to check with the town, HOA, etc to find out what is allowed.
Well, first, you wouldn't know what is allowed without me finding the fence ordinance for you so you could read it.
And apparently you didn't read or understand it, because that fence extends into the front yard and the ordinance limits it's height there to 1.2M, not 4 ft. So, your statement:
" I can't see the city having a problem with that or with your proposed gate. "
Well, it's wrong and implies to someone that obviously is clueless that they can just go ahead and put up that fence. What she proposed to do, does in fact violate the ordinance. On top of that, the pic she provided showed it going several feet out into a paved street/driveway that serves multiple dwellings. Since you didn't tell her that's not allowed when giving the go ahead, apparently you think that's OK too.
I'm looking silly? YOU gave her the green light to go ahead and put up a fence. Anyone who puts up a fence anywhere, let alone in a major city, without checking the ordinances first is not just silly, they are an imbecile.
And to top it off, the fact that she had a drawing showing the fence running two feet into the street didn't even have you raising a question. Cool, put a fence down the middle of the street, apparently that is cool in Toronto too.
On the other hand, I told her:
A - You need to check on local ordinances and with any HOA that has jurisdiction
B - Where she was proposing to put the fence was in what appears to be a street/driveway.
C - That chain link fence is going to be ugly as hell. You could not put it up here where I live because it's not allowed.
" snipped-for-privacy@optonline.net" wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@d10g2000yqb.googlegroups.com:
Yes. Quite. And I'm having fun with it, so thanks for the entertainment.
I did? I'm the bylaw officer for Toronto and nobody's even paying me! Those budget cuts have gone too far...
Leza wasn't going to do it herself; she was going to get a fence company to do it. And I think the fence companies are probably fairly familiar with what is a pretty consistent fence-height rule in Ontario.
Remember that Leza's original question had to do with the price and nothing else. I did answer here on that point, and you didn't.
It's /plainly obvious/ that you have read none but the first of Leza's posts. That's what's making you look silly.
1) It's the fence company's job to make sure the fence is complaint.
2) There is no Home Owner's Association..
No. Read Leza's other posts.
Well that's just dandy for you. But Leza doesn't live where you live. In fact, much of the world doesn't live where you live. Maybe you're the only one who lives where you live.
Sure, just trust a fence company to not violate whatever fence ordinances apply, to know where the property lines are, etc. That might work, but I say it's a bad strategy.
So if someone who is obviously clueless asks a limited question, you'd just answer that and not the obvious broader issues that the person is most likely not aware of..... Usually that's not how it works here.
I want to use a sledgehammer to open this rusty gas valve. How much does a sledgehammer cost?
It's obvious that you don't know what you're talking about. I've read all of her posts. Not that I'm required to read other threads about trees. The point is that in this post, she first posted a picture showing the fence going a couple of feet into a street! You made several posts and never brought it up. After I did, only then did she explain that what she drew is not where the fence actually will go.
And given how close that street is to the house, where the fence will go, I say she needs to be damn sure what she's doing before she does it. And I would not just trust a fence company to figure it out.
I have read them. I know what she said and when she said it. She clarified that it was not in the street only after I brought it up. Had I not brought it up, had the pic she provided in fact been accurate, and had she listened to you, the fence could now be in the street.
No, actually it's quite populated here. And we care about how things look. Which is why we don't permit ugly chain link fences in front yards.
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