Today I was visiting a Chrisitan church, that has clothing
distribution in the cellar. The recent super heavy rains wet
the carpets in the cellar, and they are concerned about
mildew. Old building. I havn't "got down" but I suspect they
They are concerned about mildew, drying, etc. The workers
were doing what they could with shop vac. And the three
dehumidifiers which run nearly all the time.
I was thinking carpet shampoo, and extraction. Mix a little
clorox in with the shampoo. What else might help for wet
IME you have to take them up to dry them & even then a smell often
Even folding them back alternate ends helps. Dehumidifiers are good,
keep doors closed. Portable fan shifts the air about, speeds drying.
The "disaster recovery" guys around here do a pretty good job with
extractors (basically high powered wet vacs), powerfull fans, and big
dehumidifiers. They use some kind of disinfectant type spray too. We
had a flood at the office - a waper line broke and put up to 2 inches
of water over the wool rugs - over 6000 sq ft - and although it took a
week to dry, they are just like new, and fresh as a daisy. Being glued
down, lifting an edge was not an option, and at $39 a yard for
material alone, replacement was not a tolerable option either.
Your head has been so far up your ass for so long that you think
everyplace has uniform 100% humidity, eh?
There's no need to point out to the OP that your rambling is not
advice, merely more trolling.
Most of the time the extractors are initially pointing out a door or
window. You want to get as much air movement as possible, and get rid
of some of the humidity, then when the place is starting to dry out,
you close up the room and cook it with the dehumidifiers to extract
the most moisture. Doing it that way accounts for ambient humidity
that is not 100%. Like most of the planet outside of harry's
On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 06:43:14 -0700 (PDT), RicodJour
My reference to "extractors" was not air extractors - but carpet
extractors - like "steam" axtraction units, but not using the steam.
The "extractor fans" were also used in our case - and the RH outside
at the time was likely about 15% - and the air temp was not terribly
high (late spring central Ontario)
On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 10:07:48 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
Trust me, when you have half a dozen industrial dehumidifiers
running, COOKING is VERY accurate. They put out about 1500 watts of
heat EACH, running 24 hours a day for several days. That's over 5000
BTU/hour - 120,000 BTU per day EACH.
On Aug 17, 7:35 pm, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Where are the air conditioners located? They could provide
serious dehumidification, much better than those weenie
Close up the area, heat it to about 90 degrees, then suck
the hot humid air to the A/C unit, and return considerably
dried air. After the temperature starts going down, just stop
everything, let more humidity be drawn into the less humidified
air, then pull with the A/C again. Then turn off the A/C, crank up
the heat to 90, do it all again.
I find it amazing to frequently see a dehumidifier operating in a
basement, right next to the biggest dehumidifier in the house.
On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 18:40:56 -0700 (PDT), Michael B
These dehumidifiers were pulling over 20 gallons of water out of the
air every 8 hours for 3 or mare days - and we ran the AC as well,
after the doors were closed.
Lots of paper in an insurance office - and that needed to be dried out
too - never got "wet" but was pretty limp from humidity.
Over a year ago now - and no mold/mildew/smell/whatever.
That would be perfect -- NOT...
Let's suck up all sorts of wet air and all the fungi and mold spores
and run them through the AC duct work while it is "wet"...
Nothing will grow in the AC duct work in the furry coating of dust
and stuff that lives in the parts of the system that remain unseen
once installed -- right ?
You need INDUSTRIAL dehumidifiers to recover after a flooding
event, not the toy consumer grade attempts at humidity control
which are designed to only be able to work with x-number of
square feet of space...
You also need several fans for the initial phase of dewatering
and to circulate the air in the space after you close it up to let
the dehumidifiers to do their magic...
It sounds to me as if this church mentioned by the OP made
a mistake in its flooring choice... Carpeting is bad in basements
and is worse in rooms that are filled up with racks which are
difficult to move around to be able to clean the carpet...
I would have gone with a commercial VCT flooring option
On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 08:11:11 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
It was a fungicide of some sort - definitely NOT bleach - and had a
deodorizer that smelt a bit like Febreeze and a bit like fabric
softener. I think they DID say something about a fabric softener
too, if I remember correctly.
Sure worked a treat anyway - thankfully it was CLEAN water (but it
sure removed a LOT of dirt from the carpet,considering the place was
only 1 1/2 years old, and only occupied for a few months). The
building had been extensively modified from the original layout
(bigshot financial plannner that went bust before the oors opened!!!)
Depends on relative humidity. When it's 100% =/- 5% inside, and only
60%, +/- outside, "purging" with the fans does a lot more, a lot
quicker, and with less power, than the dehumidifier. Get the fans and
wet-vacs running with the doors open - and when you get to the point
that the rugs are just very damp instead of very wet, turn on the
de-humidifiers and close the doors - circulating the air across the
carpets to draw out the last moisture.
I frequently use oxiclean. I have used it to get rid of stains in wood
floors after sanding. I used it recently to get rid of the smell in my
truck with water leakage. I used it after someone barfed. I used it in my
rebuilt trailer with mice piss in the wood floor. It also tends to leave a
fresh smell all by itself, but you can add deodorant. I don't like the
smell of most rug shampoos.
I did say mean green. My brother uses it and my sister just used it on rugs
and furniture. You can call it a steamer, but real steam would damage rugs.
It's lukewarm at best.
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