Yes the header is confusing, but here's what I'm trying to do. I want
to add a ground fault outlet next to or connected to the box with two
switches. I'm trying to figure out how to get some always on power from
the switch set up.
Ok I'll try to be more clear. When I pull the switch out to look at the
connections there are 3 wires connected to the left side 1. orange, 2.
orange and 3. yellow which doesn't stop but travels on. There are 2
connectors on the right side, the top one is empty and the second has a
blue wire attached. One of these does outside lights and the other does
inside garage lights.I want to add the outlet at this location. At the
front of the garage there is a single switch with an orange wire at the
top left and on the right side an orange wire top then a yellow wire
below. This switch does inside garage lights also. The wires are in
metal conduit. From the reading I've done, black or blue wires are the
hot/feed lines and switched legs are orange and yellow. All thoughts
So how do I tie in to that switch wiring to add an outlet? Thanks.
I'm not sure what you mean by "yellow which doesn't stop but travels
on". Sounds like you have a 2 pole/3 way combination switch with a
common hot lead.
If there are no white (neutral) wires in the box, you're out of luck
It shouldn't have any significance if this is a residential dwelling but the
colors orange and yellow are used to signify 277 volts. Most likely just
what the installer had handy when doing the installation. You need to
determine if you have a "feed" in the box and not be confused by load and
Yes, I've determined that the blue wire has continual power no matter
what position the switches are in so this must be my feed wire. Also
there are 3 white neutral wires in the box wire nutted together. So
here's my thought: come off of the the hot right side with a blue wire
and then pigtail on a white neutral. My questions now are: does it
matter which neutral wire I choose and what is the best way to connect
an outlet box to an already existing switch box? This is a metal box
and the lines run in conduit.Thanks again.
Just use a red wirenut and put your neutral pigtail in with the other
three. You're going to have to change the box to get a GFCI and the
switch in unless it's a type that can be ganged by removing a screw.
Easy, assuming the present two switches are separate ones, just replace
them with one duplex switch and you'll then have room to put the gfci
outlet in the existing box.
Leviton makes 'em, so you should be able to get them lots of places.
I did one just like this in our home last year so I could add a gfci
outlet to the pair of light switches alongside our front door, to let me
run an extension cord out the front door the couple of times a year I
need to trim the shrubs in front of the house. Even though I use an
orange extension cord, the damn thing has a death wish and likes to
throw itself into the teeth of the hedge trimmer every once in a while.
Since my 35 year old B&D hedge trimmer has an all metal housing, I
figgered putting in that gfci was worth the effort.
I had trouble finding a cover plate with the right shaped holes in it to
fit the duplex switch and the gfci, so I took a plastic two gang duplex
outlet cover, filed out the rectangular gfci opening and drilled the
requisite two countersunk holes in the right places. Can't tell it from
Well, that just shows how people read things differently-from his
original post, I had assumed it already was a duplex switch :)
Never would have guessed he would have asked about the box if it
Thas awrite, I missed the part about the second switch at the front of
the garage, which meant I should have pointed him to a double throw
"three way" duplex switch, which Leviton also makes, instead of the
single throw type. <G>
I hate to bring up the subject, but I don't see where anyone as checked
to see if the space in the box is enough to meet code with the additional
wires, and how about the new total load on the circuit? What else is on it
and will the additional load overload the circuit?
I may have missed it, but is this a US application or some non-US code
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