I'm looking for a good AC unit to add to my existing Carrier
Weathermaker 8000 TS upflow system. From what I understand, I'll need
both a coil, and an outside compressor.
So far, I've been quoted about $5k for a Bryant 593 system, which
seems high. Salesguy said Bryant and Carrier are same company/product,
but that doesn't seem correct.
I'm looking for a quiet, cheap system. I don't care much about
efficiency, since this is in the pacific NW (cheap power+mild
Any ideas? Idealy, I'd like to purchase online and avoid dealer markup
If not..an alternative to the Bryant would be good.
Sorry, I was hoping to get useful information here, by logically
posting to the two relevant newsgroups.
I guess not.
I would note that the Bryant and Carrier systems, while technically
the same company, look remarkably different to an amateur. I really
don't care WHO makes it, I just want something that will match my
EXISTING Carrier furnace (no, I don't want to rip it out and replace
it with a heatpump).
Any ideas? I see Goodman advertised all the time online...would a
solution like this work?
Sigh........if you continue to crosspost this is possibly the last response
you will be getting from anyone that also posts on alt.havoc excepting
perhaps the worst of the hacks.
The evaporator coil just has to fit is all, makes little to no difference
who made your furnace.
Is there a coil box installed already???
You wouldnt be ripping anything out--on the inside unit the evaporator coil
is almost identical whether its straight a/c or heat pump--the same goes for
the condensor outside.
like this work?
Provided the ducts are adequately sized, yes....but it is not really a do
it yourself type job.
Above is your biggest promlem, IMO...........Here you want to do it on the
cheap but you dont have but a clue as to what it actually entails to do it
correctly--basically, you are thumbing your nose at those who have spent
many years learning their trade and operating legimate businesses and paying
insurance and taxes and so on....while at the same time you are also
expecting them to help you screw them out of a job..........
Oh, I almost forgot--my Brother is an Attorney for the State of Washington,
one of the departments he oversees happens to be tax collections.......I'm
sure he will appreciate the lead..........
I pay all of my taxes and I dont much appreciate those who would skirk here,
you are stealing from your neighbor when you do this.
Find out what size system you need and the see if the ductwork and
furnace blower deliver the correct amount of CFM air heatload through
the evaporator coil.
A proper sized Goodman will do the job but I would match it with a high
quality evaporator coil with a TEV refrigerant control!
A quality installation is more important than the brand of the
condensing unit. The evaporator and refrigerant control are critical to
optimal absorption and transfer of heat from the conditioned space to
the condenser. Check the condenser air discharge temperature split, the
tech can confirm the temp-split using the Saturated Condensing
Temperature (minus the outdoor temperature) on the highside gauge.
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Have at it! Buy a Goodman. Your first problem is to get the right size.
There are a variety of things you need to know. (That's one of the reasons
pros are worth the money, they can spec all the details for you).
Now, for problem #2, to find someone to install it for you. (One of the
reasons pros are worth the money, they can install it for you.)
Well, if you're looking for a sytem to purchase online, Google is your
friend. It doesn't sound like you have much training in HVAC. If you did,
you'd go right ahead and buy your own equipment at your parts house, and
never consider posting on USenet.
It's my understanding that Carrier and Bryant are the same company.
To my knowledge any central AC system is going to need a HVAC guy to hook it
up, vacuum pump the air and moisture out, and do the freon hookup.
HVAC folks need to pay insurance, gas, oil, taxes, etc. If you buy your own
equipment, you are likely to face one of a couple things. First, some
companies won't want to do the install. Others may do it, but for the cost
of thier markup and labor. And you might find someone willing to do a night
job, working cheep, and then you get poor performance.
I'd suggest to contact a couple other HVAC companies. Five G's sounds on the
It is correct. There are minor differences in appearance but the products
are almost identical and are indeed from the same manufacturer.
Your contractor has bid the correct unit then. The 593 is a 10 SEER Deluxe
cabinet unit that will be quiet and less expensive than a more efficient
If you want to supply your own unit then the only companies that will
install if for you might be the starving hacks. Follow the golden rule, you
get what you pay for. Always take that rule within reason by getting bids
from other companies for comparison. The installation is worth far more
than the brand.
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