1 day and 15 hours prior.
There seems no end of your ability to produce nonsense though.
So relate that to ANWR, or it's just more obfuscation.
You say a lot of abjectly silly things that you cannot support with facts.
That is *your* notion, and is nothing I've ever said. It's the fact that there are 400 toxic spills per year at Prudhoe that I've talked about. You can't get past the first one you found out about. What about the
100,000 gallon and 200,000 gallon spills?You would tolerate *that* in ANWR!
How about the fact that BP just paid a $20,000,000 fine, and the State of Alaska is about to file a civil suit against them for damaging land owned by the State of Alaska by their lack of concern for the environment.
But doing that, or 100,000 gallon spills, once a day is something to be avoided. If you don't, what you get is what the State of Washington is now dealing with in Puget Sound. A dying environment.
What has Katrina got to do with the Arctic? Tell us just how *you* would clean up a 100,000 gallon spill offshore on the ice??? (Just in case you don't know, it has been demonstrated that if there is more than about
5% ice present, we have *no* technology to do any kind of a cleanup. That would be more than 75% of the time in the Beaufort Sea.)If we listen to idiots we could have a North Slope where nobody can live. If our environment was like that of Putrid Sound, the whole population here would have to leave.
People here *depend* on a clean environment.
As I mentioned, last winter there were oil drilling rigs operating close to Barrow. The NPR-A, where we all support exploration, and have for 60 years, is literally my backyard. And there are gas wells, which have supplied Barrow with natural gas for 40 years in abundance.
You are a NIMBY by comparison to the residents of Barrow and the rest of the North Slope. The difference is that we aren't dumb.
The entire Gwitch'n Nation depends on it. And while Kaktovik is primarily a marine mammal hunting environment, they do utilize a great deal of caribou from ANWR.
Of course all over the Lower-48 there are hunters who eat the migratory birds that nest in ANWR.
If you want to know more about ANWR, why not do some research! Here's a great place to start:
An index to links with significant information,
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You lack anything like sane perspective. The point of course is the *keep* the North Slope clean, not to destroy it the way you want to.
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Stop being dishonest. She may have seen it frozen, but it is not barren, and there has never been "small footprint drilling proposed".
Neither she nor you have a clue. "Drilling a few test wells" would not answer anything. As I've mentioned, we've been drilling test wells in the NPR-A since the late 1940's. The USGS predicts that it holds just about the same type and volume of oil as ANWR. Yet after decades of drilling, there is not one single production well in NPR-A.
Not really. The closest producing oil well to ANWR is more than 30 miles distant, and is nearly worthless (look up the history of the Badami Field). If ANWR were full of oil, why is there no oil to the north, the east, the south or the west of it?
Or, maybe the fact is that you just don't know a thing about oil! Or the North Slope.
So just show us where it is! They don't support Arctic Power's lobbying effort anymore. They don't bid on lease sales close to ANWR. They hardly say a peep about it.
I know of *no* oil company that is working today at opening ANWR. Of course, if you know of such, you could provide more than just your opinion on it... be my guest!
I've shown were they won't even bid on the ANWR offshore tracts offered by the State of Alaska. Lets see you show where they have any interest at all!
Exactly. I support drilling at Prudhoe, drilling at Kuparuk, and drilling in reasonable areas of NPR-A (including on land surrounding Barrow). You might note that Prudhoe is on State land, not Federal, and your point that the Feds would benefit from ANWR while a bit silly, doesn't translate even in the slightest to Prudhoe.
You just don't seem to know enough about oil on the North Slope to even talk about this.
But they won't. Therefore it would not have much effect on balance of payments. You simply need to get your head around the fact that all that Republican propaganda you've heard is aimed at fools. It isn't true, it has no significance, but it gets fools excited. You need to calm down, fool.
There isn't enough oil there, even according to the wildest exaggerations, to qualify as a significant alternative source.
Besides, what value is there in burning up all of *our* oil now, when the major effect would only be to put us into a terrible pinch in the future when we would have exactly *no* oil of our own!
See what I mean by foolish. Hiding your head in the sand with fool ideas, and then calling *me* names isn't going to get you anything.
Is the State of Alaska an extremist organization for going after oil companies with criminal charges? Or for filing civil suits to recover damages?
How dumb can you get? You continue to make statements about a small footprint, but you don't yet understand what "footprint" is. That's awful dumb, given that it
*has* been explained to you. But again, most of what you have to say on this subject involves being virtually ignorant of every detail about oil and the North Slope.That is the total area which will be affected by just the initial stages of exploration.
Each actual drill pad would be about 100 acres. But that is not anything near the area that would be affected. Roads, pipelines, garbage dumps, airports, gravel pits... none of which are part of that "footprint", have far more impact on the environment that the 100 acres drill pad.
But you are abjectly ignorant of any significant information about how such things function.
The drill sites would indeed be just a nit in the total percentage that would be affected. Supposedly (but it isn't something you'd want to believe) they would keep the drill pads down to only a total of 2000 acres, but that is out of the 1.5 million that would be affected. I'll let you do the arithmetic.
I'm going to learn something about the North Slope from a short 60 Minutes story? You really are naive. If you provide accurate (as in, cut your own stupid bullshit out of it) details as to what they said, I'll be quite happy to critique if for you, and explain when they were correct and when they weren't.
Keep in mind, they were short time visitors. I live here.