On Saturday, November 16, 2013 12:09:37 PM UTC-5, email@example.com wrote:
180 degrees out of phase and opposite are the same thing.
Look at it on an oscilloscope. What the exact method of
generating it is doesn't matter. If you have 3 wires entering
a box, the relationship between them is what it is, regardless
of how it's generated or what you call it.
On 11/16/2013 11:09 AM, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
"phase" has a meaning. There's still 2 of them. "split-phase" sounds
I think I've heard about that. Are the phases 90 degrees apart?
The fact that there is this different 2 phase system doesn't prevent the
usual one from being 2 phase. That's be like saying you don't have 2
colors of holiday lights if they're just red and green.
39 days until The winter celebration (Wednesday December 25, 2013 12:00
AM for 1 day).
On Saturday, November 16, 2013 6:03:52 PM UTC-5, email@example.com wrote:
But that isn't what you objected to. You objected to someone
saying the two hot legs at the dryer are out of phase by 180 deg
with each other. That is true as can be seen on a scope.
And when you split something, can you cite
an example where after splitting, you still have just one?
On Sunday, November 17, 2013 11:24:31 AM UTC-5, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Typical. Don't respond to the specific points that go to the
issue, just start with the usual insults. A sure sign that you've
lost the argument and can't address the points.
Here are some references for you that say exactly what I
and Mark Loyd are saying:
"A split-phase electricity distribution system is a three-wire single-phase
distribution system. It is the AC equivalent of the original Edison three-
wire direct current system. Its primary advantage is that it saves conducto
r material over a single-ended single-phase system while only requiring sin
gle phase on the supply side of the distribution transformer. The two ha
lves are 180 degrees apart with respect to center point."
Note the last sentence.
Or this app note on power configurations, which shows and
talks in detail about split-phase:
Second diagram down:
"The two legs, represented by Phase A and Phase B are 180
degrees apart. Since they are 180 degrees apart, wiring
them together with their relative polarities will result in...."
THAT is exactly what you objected too. A poster made
reference to the fact that the two hots of a 240V service
differ by 180 degrees in phase. You claimed that they are
not 180 deg different in phase, just "opposites". Which
is like saying the south pole doesn't differ by 180 deg
from the north pole, it's just the "opposite". Any one
with any math, science background knows you're wrong here.
Remember how you made a complete ass of yourself not knowing
how a 4 wire vs 3 wire oven connection worked? Even as two EE's
and an electrician told you that you were wrong. Even as I
said just go look at any electric stove installation manual,
which you refused to do? Well, here you are again.
On Sun, 17 Nov 2013 09:39:03 -0800 (PST), " email@example.com"
Typical lies. I've responded to EVERY one of your points but you keep
asking the same stupid damned questions, over, and over, and over,
You're either incredibly stupid or completely illiterate. Your
engineering skills sure suck. You're in management, aren't you?
Slang is often not the real world. Since you believe it is, you're a
damned fool (duh!).
You can't even read.
<no point in responding any more. Everything's been said. You're
simply too dense to absorb the facts>
On Sun, 17 Nov 2013 18:36:17 -0500, Stormin Mormon
The person that took, what fifteen years, to finally learn to not top
post? The one who constantly adds off-topic nonsense to threads? You
think anyone is going to listen to your net-copping? You're deluded
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