We bought some locally grown grapes at the farmers' market. Sour little
things, but my wife made a cobbler with them that tastes very good (she
added apples.) The grapes also make an excellent jelly.
I've saved some of the seeds, and would like some advice on growing
grapevines of my own using these seeds.
Shouldn't be too hard. Around here, (northern calif.), grape plants come up
as seeds all the time. They are treated ass weeds, and pulled. I'd say just
stick the seed in the dirt and keep moist. You will probably see some action
next season... as to what fruit a wild grape will produce, is anyone's
guess. But give it a try - you might discover a new variety!
Grapes do not produce true from seed. That is why they are always grown
from cuttings. They can be grown from seed but it is anyone's guess as to
what will grow. Grape vines are not that expensive so if one finds a
variety that is desired, the best thing to do is buy a grafted cutting.
I live so far north, there's not a lot of grape varieties to choose
from. I've found a few wild grape seedlings coming up in the flower
beds and I wonder how much they would produce if I transplanted them to
a trellis and pruned them properly?
How many years would it take before I got that first pitiful little
harvest so I could tell if the fruit was any good? If they were awful,
shouldn't I be able to graft a good variety onto the wild roots and have
bearing vines in another 2 years?
2nd or 3rd year from a cutting. I had no problem getting fruit in the
From my all too rough understanding, you get grapes on the
canes/branches that grew the previous season. I started with 2 year,
12-18" bare root vines(Burpee.com). The first year they just vined,
very healthly, and aggressive. The second year they grew excessively,
too much so as I constantly cut them and they still covered the little
back porch of the house. I got quite a few grapes, but too many
clusters and not fully developed. Also suffered a lot of powdery
Some are finally sweetened. I could tell cause I have two or the
larger birds going after the fruit every day.
DiGiTAL ViNYL (no email)
Zone 6b/7, Westchester Co, NY, <1 mile off L.I.Sound
3rd year gardener
It takes 2-3 years for started plants (bare root) to yield a small
crop. It takes another year or two for the plants to yield a full
crop. I would expect a seedling to take at least 3 years or maybe
You need to get the vine growing to the extent there are horizontal
branches on a support. These form during a growing season. The
following winter or early spring, side growth on the horizontal
branches is pruned short but not removed. That growing season may
yield a small crop from shoots originated from the reduced side
growth. The pruning is repeated each winter, and the crop is
better each following growing season.
It's difficult to describe the pruning process for grapes. There
are actually two main pruing styles. Some grape varieties do
better with one, some with the other, and some equally well with
either pruning style. Try to find a book on pruning or grape
culture in your local library.
David E. Ross
Climate: California Mediterranean
Even if the OP does not intend to make wine, the best book I have found on
pruning (and VERY reasonably priced) is "From Vines to Wine" by Jeff Cox.
You can get it through Amazon or might even be able to find a used copy.
Paul E. Lehmann wrote:
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Thanks to all. I'll just bung 'em in the ground and see what comes up.
:-) AFAICT, what we bought at the Farmers Market were indigenous grapes,
not grafted stock. The worst that will happen is that we'll get some
different textures of greenery in our garden.
We make wine at our local Wine Kitz store. Good, not great, but very
drinkable, and reliable quality. Vins ordinaires for everyday table use.
Then go get some The time spent going to get some would be well worth your
Think of it this way. There must be a reason why people all over the world
for thousands of years have been growing grapes from cuttings and not
seeds. If you want to start a new trend then by all means go for it. You
will NOT, however, be able to predict in any way what your grape vine(s)
from seed will produce.
Even vines from mail order nurseries are relatively inexpensive.
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