Add sulphur to the soil?
Its already pretty acid due to the centuries of fri**ing Douglas fir
Should have figured the sets in the fall. Its a bulb after all.
I've had real good luck with shallots in the same general garden area
so I think I ought to try the garlic, too.
Shallots and garlic are reasonably small and I use them in cooking, bu
not in huge quanities.
Onions wouldn't work. They take too much room and I use too many. I
wouldnt be able to grow enough
volume. The soil is too clayish, despite years of compost and sand
amendment. And I don't want to only
|>> Portland Oregon area
|>> Suddenly have an urge to grow garlic.
|> Plant sets in the fall.
If you miss the fall opportunity, early spring is OK although the
bulbs will be a bit smaller come harvest.
Alexander Miller, Vancouver Island; Zone 7-8ish?
Soggy winters, baked dry summers.
Shallow topsoil, blue clay beneath.
Using mostly raised beds :)
|You forgot the sig delimiter.
|hyphen hyphen space enter.
Actually no, I didn't.
But when posting a follow-up I try to remember to delete whatever quoted thread
seems irrelevant, and leave only enough - in my judgement of course - to set or
clarify the context for my response. And of course, while highliting the parts
to delete, it's no problem to include any part of a signature I'd rather not
There are several good reasons to do this, including global bandwidth economy as
well as courtesy to - among others - those who may be stuck with slow &
expensive dial-up connections.
But I'm sure you know all this. Possibly you, yourself, sometimes forget. If so
would you like to be reminded? Maybe meantime you could post follow-ups to all
the other folks here who don't know (or forget) about this.
Now this is a gardening forum,
So can you contribute something about garlic to the garlic thread?
Or what do you know about, say, symphylans?
"Fom things that go bump in the night
And the signature police
|Adding a sig delimiter is a courtesy to any and all who may reply, often
|as important as editing or trimming replies.
Quotation of unneccesary/irrelevant material, often from several receding levels
of thread - which seems to be the norm here - are far more important and
intrusive. Trimming them, as one "ought" to, automatically solves the "problem"
(what problem?) of re-quoting a few lines of (potentially) irrelevant
But I don't usually like to spend - and I don't intend to spend any more - time
whining about that.
Tell you what - any info that I might put in my signature, I will put instead in
the body of the message.
But only if I feel it makes sense.
Now I'm done with this nonsense. It's a GARDENING forum.
I would either order the garlic I wanted or buy some from the grocery store.
Break the cloves apart and separate them by size. Use the small ones and
plant the larger.
Find a bed that you will be able to keep up for years. Plant the cloves 4
inches apart with the pointed end up, in a row deep enough so you will have
1/2 inch of dirt on top. They grow in almost any soil. I raised it in
Arkansas (Acidic soil) and here now in Kansas (neutral soil). I prefer the
elephant garlic over the strong ones. I add fertilizer to the soil between
my harvest and the replanting of the next years crop. I use 10-10-10, and
do it sparingly. I like to water the crop every 5 or so days when we don't
get any rain.
I harvest mine when the tops start dying back (end of June to first of
August, depending upon the year), cure them (wash the dirt off, cut all but
6 to 8 inches of stem off, and lay them on the floor of my garage for 10 to
15 days), and then put them in the coolest room of the basement until
September. Then I take out a bunch of the largest, separate the cloves,
plant 100 of the biggest cloves and use or give away the smaller. It last
in my basement until well into the next summer if I don't use it or give it
On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 21:39:47 -0400, "Paul E. Lehmann"
Yes but you will not be happy with the result. Each clove produces a
new plant which develops a head full of cloves. So if you leave a
head in the ground with 10 cloves in you will get 10 plants which will
each try to produce a new head. The proxomity of all these plants to
one another will prevent the development of any useable garlic.
Yes. If you plant them now they will come up but probably not develop into
cloves by harvest time. My Elephant garlic wont. It turns out to be one
big ball. The second summer they will split. If you wait until Sept to
plant the cloves, rather than now, they will be ready by next summer. If
you don't harvest all of them, the cloves will on the ones left in the
ground will make grow into more balls and split into cloves. The man who
gave me some of his garlic has a 30 ft row. He harvests and cures what he
needs and leaves the rest in the ground.
I don't think growing garlic is all that rewarding. I
grew some once, and I have to say I got some
satisfaction from it, but we use so much of it, and the
stuff doesn't keep all that well if you grow a lot of
it, and the stuff also is so cheap to buy, that it just
doesn't seem worth it. I think a better use of the
time and space and other resources is to grow fresh
herbs, which are /not/ cheap, and which /do/ "store"
well, if by storage you take to mean keeping them on
the plant until you trim a little for use.
Especially having limited gardening space, I only want
to grow those things where there's both a marked
quality improvement by growing my own, and a
significant price saving. Garlic isn't one. I
wouldn't grow my own dried beans, either, for the same
Chacun a son gout.
(With apologies for a font and keyboard which do not contain the
french accenture marks.)
I grow massive amounts of herbs: oregano, tarragon, chives (2
varieties) , parsley (2 varieties)
savory, marjoram, rosemary, sage, thyme.
To me, garlic is another herb, even though the "good eats" part is
underground and not up on a stem.
You as dumb as dirt boy? Everybody knows those are diacritical marks
and, French is a proper noun, so capitalize it. Listen up boy, you
representing our row, so ship-up or shape-out. We've got an eye on you;->
I do admire your entropy-friendly organization.
from here at Camp Runamuck,
Cloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)
I have used them as a ball. I grow elephant garlic and it is pretty mild.
I couldn't tell the difference between a large clove or the ball. If you
leave the ball, the finished clove will be much bigger and you have more to
use. I have found the ball several times when digging my garlic, and just
put them back into the ground and left them until the following year. That
worked out very well.
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