For Windows platforms, Ethernet card drivers, tcpip/ip etc are
auto-configured when first installed, and when you configure the router.
For OS/2, it has to be done manually, including installing the driver
for the Ethernet card that connects to the router (which I connects to
the DSL modem for access to the 'net.) Can be done, of course, but it's
a hassle, not least because OS/2 doesn't have many Ethernet card
drivers. Bell's Access Manager is used for connecting directly through
the DSL modem. There is no OS/2 version. That's the downside of using an
obsolescent OS - even one that's still ahead of Windows in design,
function and usability, and at least equal to Linux in stability and
security (and way ahead in usability.)
True, but OS/2 still needs the correct NIC driver, and that's the
problem: not enough available for OS/2. The faster machine has on-board
Ethernet, but OS/2 can't use it. I tried an add-in card (Intel 10/1000
Pro), but the generic driver that is supposed to work for all NICs
didn't, probably because it was still beta. I don't have the smarts to
fix it, nor even to describe the problem correctly. Or else I've
misread/misunderstood the docs, which are not exactly a model of clarity
(what OS docs are? :-))
Well, I'll try again Real Soon Now. I've just bought eComStation, a
licensed upgraded distro of OS/2, and we'll see. OS/2 IMO still has the
best GUI - consistently OO in design, and completely consistent in
behaviour, unlike any other I've ever tried. I recently tried Gnome on
Suse 10.0 -- not very good, a bad mix of Windows and Mac design concepts
IMO. But Linux looks prmising for other reasons.
But this thread is getting very much OT, so I'll end my participation
here, if you don't mind. I'll be asking questions on a couple of
Because MS stuff still on the disk can be invoked by other MS stuff on
the disk, the OS included, whether you planned it to or not. Quite a few
attacks on Windows computers rely on this trait. If you don't want a given
MS program to be executed, you have to delete it.
Robert Grumbine http://www.radix.net/~bobg/ Science faqs and amateur activities
notes and links.
OK. I asked because sometimes, uninstalling software on Windows machines can
result in really hideous problems that you're never able to solve
completely, except by reformatting and reinstalling the OS, which isn't such
a bad idea anyway from time to time.
........ actually, removing others messages work well too as long as one stays
from the "me too" answers. realistically, how often do people who are following
thread NOT know what the topic is about. having already read previous posters I
usually need to see em again, hence they should be relegated to the bottom.
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Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for
any of the recommendations I make.
AND I DID NOT AUTHORIZE ADS AT THE OLD PUREGOLD SITE
Our "town gas" was from coal. So, when you talked about Britain's
conversion to natural gas, I thought you meant what that term means
here... the huge national conversion project from coal-gas to natural
gas. That's where we got our wires crossed. Let's try again
You wrote " Britain started out pretty well when they converted to
natural gas (snips)
The conversion occurred in the early 90s."
Don't interpret that to mean Britain ceased coal-fired power
generation in the 90's. Britain continues to use coal-fired power
stations to generate electricity , though we do also use gas, nuclear
and hydro power stations, wind-generastion is increasing and wave-power
is on its way.
This much is true. Well we had better get cracking over here now! With the
presidents call last night for just what you opine, maybe some of the
decreasingly great minds of our nation will come up with something big!
I hope so.
Thank you for a little voice of reason here. You will probably get flamed
by the more emotional who have been convinced (rightly or not) that global
warming will be our demise. I say if global warming is going to put an end
to us all then let's just go ahead and build a whole crapload of nuclear
reactors and at least breathe easier as we meet our end. Oh wait that may
reduce greenhouse emissions! Oh noooo! Then global warming might not come
around quickly enough to be our demise.... Oh but then the nuclear waste
will kill us!
And if you copy and worward this email to everybody on your list Bill Gates
will give you a hundred dollars!
Really this is not the place to have this discussion anyway. You see it has
turned into a political discussion. This is a gardening group.
Just my two pennies worth, whatever it is worth. Duh, tow pennies of
course? What was I thinking?
Agree completely with your assessment and logic you present, James. When I
was in grade school the fear was an Ice Age coming again and *soon*. When
that didn't generate any bucks the tone changed. Amazing how many people
can be duped by this. I believe there is a problem though and it is the
fact of the population explosion.
I will say that the 6 billion + humans on the earth today is 50% more than
when I was a freshman in H.S. Hmm 50% increase in CO2 emissions in 28
years? Every day... 50% increase in CO2 exhalation and steadily rising from
this point forward? - forever? Wow that MUST be having an alarming effect
on greenhouse gases?
What to do about it though? That is the real question. Fact is that the
human race will indeed overcome this planet's sustaining capability.
Population explosion is the problem.
The "ice age" theory was never signed onto by the majority of climatologists
and earth scientists, because it didn't have sufficient data to support it.
Global warming does have sufficient data and virtually the entire
climatology scientific community agrees that is is real. To pretend
otherwise reminds me of the current debate about evolution in the US, in
which the fundamentalists who favor creationism pretend that there are equal
numbers of reputable scientists on both sides of the question. But, if you
prefer to bury your head in the sand out of some interesting notion that
denial is healthy, please be my guest.......
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