Global warming?

[Janet Baraclough]

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The problem with you top posting, is that your posts are so muddled and back to front they are unreadable.

Janet

[Wolf Kirchmeir]

The problem is the mix of top and bottom posting, the inconsistent and/or careless snipping, etc.

NB that I snipped the rest of your post, which consisted of previous posts that are more or less irrelevant to my answer to your comment.

There are newsreaders that will display threads in a tree when to display threads. I don't know about Outlook, since I've never used it.

HTH

[Travis M.]

Outlook does not do newsgroups.

[Travis M.]

What the hay is "packaged e-mail"?

[Lady Blacksword]

[Erik Vastmasd]

Lady Blacksword wrote in of Sat,

4 Feb 2006 16:45:20 -0500:

Murri, Outlook doesn't do newsgroups, Outlook Express does and is a different programme.

ie: "X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180"

[Lady Blacksword]

Who the hell still uses the old version???!! Or are you trying to gently inform me that Travis is running an ancient copy of Windows, pre outlook express? If so, that's sad. Murri

[Travis M.]

You are using Outlook Express 6 not Outlook.

[Travis M.]

Vamoose troll.

[dr-solo]

........ actually, removing others messages work well too as long as one stays away from the "me too" answers. realistically, how often do people who are following a thread NOT know what the topic is about. having already read previous posters I dont usually need to see em again, hence they should be relegated to the bottom. Ingrid

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[Wolf Kirchmeir]

Ok, OK, I'm sorry, I use Internet Explorer _only_ for updating Windows, and I use no other Microsoft program, ever, so I've long forgotten what they are, so it's my mistake, so get a life already. Please!

HTH

[Mr. Bill]

If you are reading newsgroups then you must be using Outlook Express, different from Outlook.

And for my own part I also prefer bottom posting, especially when the original or reply is snipped properly so that it makes sense. Top posting is kind of like answering a question before it is asked.

Example: Yes.

Is the sky blue?

Makes more sense if it rerads:

Yes.

Mr. Bill

[Doug Kanter]

You're using Outlook Express, not Outlook.

[Wolf Kirchmeir]

OK, OK, I'm sorry I triggered this fight.

I don't use any MS program if I can help it, have never, ever used Outlook or Outlook Express, and never will, in fact have removed as much of Outlook/Outlook Express as I could, have removed all other MS programs except Internet Explorer, since Microdaft insists on ActiveX for updating, so I can't use Mozilla, so I didn't know that "Outlook" isn't just a short form of "Outlook Express", which is what I thunk, but refer to different programs, etc etc etc.

So kwitcherfitin, already!

[Robert Grumbine]

Indeed, after some efforts into researching whether there as _any_ support in the scientific community for the 'imminent ice age', it turns out that the answer is no:

The 'imminent ice age' claim was strictly a construction, to the extent it existed at all, of media outlets, the most quoted being a newsweek article from 1975 -- year of a particularly cold winter.

If you peruse the young earth creationist sites, you'll find quite a lot of climate change denial as well.

[Robert Grumbine]

If one 5 C warming was good, does that necessitate that another 5 C warming will also be good? What definition of 'good' are you using?

The reason for the last glacial termination is one which offers little good news. Milankovitch cycles (small variations in the earth's orbit on tens of thousands of year time scales) have driven ice age cycles for the last 2.5 million years. For the last 700-ish ky, this has meant ice ages of something like 100 ky duration, emphasis on the 'something like' as it's plus or minus about 30 ky, depending on how the multiple cycles line up with each other.

The spans between major advances in northern hemisphere ice have been something like 10 ky -- with similar variation (particularly long interglacial about 400 kya). That has lead to the sound bite of 'we're due for an ice age so _should_ be putting more greenhouse gases in the atmosphere to ward it off'. The thing is, that's false. To the extent that Milankovitch cycles are the control, we're due for another particularly long interglacial, with another 50 or 70 ky to go : Ledley, T. S. "Summer solstice solar radiation, the 100 kyr ice age cycle, and the next ice age", Geophys. Res. Letters, 22, 2745-2748, 1995.

... for areas of the northeastern Atlantic. The global picture is more consistently for heating, even in winter.

[Doug Kanter]

I understand not using some MS stuff, but considering how cheap hard disk space is these days, why do you waste time removing things? Just don't use them.

[Wolf Kirchmeir]

Older machine, smaller HD, two OSs. Made the mistake of installing W2K on a 2GB partition, which was touted as "minimum required." Shoulda known better. Need W2K mostly for an estimating program my wife uses, and use it for web access because Bell Sympatico doesn't play well with OS/2. Bah! The "good" desktop runs on OS/2, and I've experimented with Linux on it.

Currently debating whether to go to another notebook (for my wife -- I have a Mac G4), or another desktop. I like desktops - I can tinker with them easily. And there are some really good buys out there, of "old" mobos that were cutting edge a mere 18 months ago.... H'm. OTOH, a laptop would suit my wife just fine, she could take it to the office, etc.

Difficult....

[Robert Grumbine]

Because MS stuff still on the disk can be invoked by other MS stuff on the disk, the OS included, whether you planned it to or not. Quite a few attacks on Windows computers rely on this trait. If you don't want a given MS program to be executed, you have to delete it.

[Doug Kanter]

OK. I asked because sometimes, uninstalling software on Windows machines can result in really hideous problems that you're never able to solve completely, except by reformatting and reinstalling the OS, which isn't such a bad idea anyway from time to time.