Yikes. Treated, as in pressure treated? As in, poison leaching into the
food you are eating? RR ties wil be the same. Check out
Rocks or brick, OK.
Lumber, OK. Maybe check out plasticized wood that is used for decks.
Hay bales, OK.
Mounded dirt, OK.
Old porcelain bath tubs, OK but not pressure treated wood or RR ties, or
old telephone poles.
Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)
General rule of thumb for me is if it won't rot not good.
Creosote a human carcinogen was a staple for RR ties, Piers and
telephone poles. Sure it will keep ant's out of your house but.
They used to make up a mix of Mercury and Lead to prevent rot which
was fazed out about 1960. Used on sailing vessel mostly but when
recycling wood , old wood remember it might be here due to poison. Lead
paint works great but forty years later can cause brain damage.
Leaded gas fazed out about 1968 but all those greens along the highway
may be toxic.
Be careful out here:))
S Jersey USA Zone 5 Shade
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<Charlie> wrote in message> I's lookin'...........not too good.
One reason I put in a vege garden & polytunnel 18 odd months ago and have
started to learn things far more intensively than when I had my last vege
garden. Learn it now & it'll be there if/when I need it. I am dabbling with
seed saving & green manuring as well should things go south.
The sudden spike in dairy prices has been good news for our dairy farmers. I
saw a figure today suggesting $ NZ 2 billion extra this season. The reserve
bank (who are fixated with inflation) is warning farmers to keep the money
in their pockets least it fuels inflation. We are shortly getting bio-fuel
plants here converting tallow, whey & waste cooking oil into bio-diesel &
ethanol. We will get about 4% of our diesel needs & about 1% of our petrol
substitutes this way. There is some technology to extract bio-diesel from
algae grown on sewerage ponds. That would be useful for both municipal &
farm based effluent. That'd give a reasonable % substitute for fossil diesel
when it dissappears. Maybe at a guess 10-15%. That is a quite a generous
figure a bio-fuel substitute for a fossil fuel.
Peak oil will come sometimes. We may have just had it, we may be in the
centre of it now, it may be just around the corner or it may be 20 odd years
away. Some will scoff & say we will never run out of oil as morw will be
discovered as prices make it economically feasible to extract. ROFTL. and
ROFTL again. Thats part of the point of peak oil. It is not only the
possibility of oil running out, it is also the pricing out. Oil may be
available however the price of it is likely to make intensive use
infeasible, in my opinion. Using shit loads of oil through fuel &
fertilisers, as described in this thread, are likely to go by the way.
If people want a handle on how things may go, I say may as the future is
open, have a look at Cuba. They went through a peak oil exercise with the
collapse of the Soviet Union, the loss of their primary export & import
market and primary source of oil. Their economy contracted by about 30-40% I
believe. The average Cuban lost a number of kilograms. The country adapted
to the changes & severe pain by growing a large % of their food in
allotments, went organic (because they had no access to pestidices &
fertilisers) & focussed more on growing the islands food needs rather than
import it. To that end they were mainly successful. Transport wise they went
back to pedal & animal power in many cases. A legacy in Habana was the
public transport system. They came out with things called Camellos (spanish
for Camel). Massive articulated lorries pulling tractors that had been
converted to seating. 200-300 people could fit in to a Camello. The Camellos
are still running although due to be phased out with the arrival of buses
I was there in March & found it a really interesting trip. Only did 3 weeks
so not enough time to look closely at these types of things. I hope to go
back for another look at some point.
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