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Yikes. Treated, as in pressure treated? As in, poison leaching into the food you are eating? RR ties wil be the same. Check out

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Rocks or brick, OK. Lumber, OK. Maybe check out plasticized wood that is used for decks. Hay bales, OK. Mounded dirt, OK. Old porcelain bath tubs, OK but not pressure treated wood or RR ties, or old telephone poles.

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Billy Rose
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Southern Oregon(specifically Klamath County)

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Lilah Morgan

General rule of thumb for me is if it won't rot not good.

Creosote a human carcinogen was a staple for RR ties, Piers and telephone poles. Sure it will keep ant's out of your house but. They used to make up a mix of Mercury and Lead to prevent rot which was fazed out about 1960. Used on sailing vessel mostly but when recycling wood , old wood remember it might be here due to poison. Lead paint works great but forty years later can cause brain damage. Leaded gas fazed out about 1968 but all those greens along the highway may be toxic.

Be careful out here:))

Bill

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William Wagner

Carter went down as the worst president and was.

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Aluckyguess

Newt, is that you?

This might have been debatable until the Bush Gang came along. Nobody can compete with the theologically reactionary, back room, good ol' boy, anti-scientific, anti-civil rights, vicious, bottom of the barrel that is Bush and his Gang. The very avatar of evil.

It would be nice if you could offer some evidence instead of just saying, "I don't like it". Brevity is a virtue but so is comprehensibility.

So how's your garden doing? Anything ripe yet?

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Billy Rose

Billy, heal thyself. Apply above para to the one above that.

Not yet; but getting close. Just cleaned out all the lettuce, radish, spinach beds and am pondering what to put in them.

cheers

oz

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MajorOz

Off the top of my head double digit inflation and interest rates. A terrible economy. I was young then, I do remember I thought he would of made a great neighbor.

Yes lots of peppers some tomatoes lots of squash beans, lettuce, carrots, onions, swish chard, beets, broccoli, cilantro and Tomatillo's. The tomatillos have made some great salsa.

How is yours doing?

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Aluckyguess

A little slow, thanks for asking. I'm waiting on just abut eveything except green beans which seem as if they are about to turn nasty. It's a real drag harvesting beans. You have to squat down and then rummage the plant. I'd put them out for my neighbors except that they are such a pain in the tucka to harvest.

I vaguely remember something about an oil embargo that caused double digit inflation during the Carter administration. Just because OPEC decided to raise oil prices Carter is a bum? There is always the Congressional oversight committees like the Church committee and the Rockerfeller committee that found that the Nixon administration was working with the mafia to assassinate third world leaders, and to illegally smear the reputations of civil rights leaders in this country. Which do you think was worse?

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Billy Rose

Thanks for the reality check oz, I think I answered that in my post to Aluckyguess took care of that but if you need more, how about the arming of Samosa's national guard and calling them the Contras along with the fact that Lieutenant Colonel Ollie North was Regan's "go-fer" and over saw the sales of weapons to Iran (our enemy at the time) and the sales of drugs (Noriega) to finance a shadow government with no accountability to Congress? Man, that Carter is looking really good. He just got screwed over by the Republican left-overs in the CIA.

The lettuce is doing well. I'm getting about five salads a week from the lettuce patch and it isn't completely mature yet, and I have another

36 in the germinator. There is nothing like fresh salad. It has a texture and a flavor and I never tire of eating it.
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Billy Rose

For your edification.

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Charlie

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Charlie

Thanks to you and all the others who have given me lots to go on. I think I now have enough to work from after all the wonderful posts.

The ones I get here for my monthly breakfast probalby don't have the egg or onions added and I suspect that they may have been rinsed to get some of the starch out and then compressed. They are served with Avocado, sour cream, smoked salmon and a Chilli sauce.

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FarmI

Actually I don't agree about Nixon. He stuffed up big time with Watergate and he was certainly paranoid but he at least was one US President who had some realisation of the place the US holds on the world stage and he certainly understood that the US wasn't "an Island entire unto itself". He had some 'interesting' foreign policy problems but at least he tried to do something and in some instances he got it right. Contrast that with Bush's foreign policy.

And at least Reagan had a sense of humour. I'm still waiting for Bush to do anything that is even vaguely non cringe worthy.

But IIRC, so could Kennedy.

Thinking of it, can you actually mention one US President who didn't have Foreign Policy disasters? I can't off the top of my head (at least in my lifetime).

I'm pea green with envy. All I can do is ground prep whilst waiting for Spring. I'm sitting here rugged up to the eyeballs and they are forecasting the possibility of snow (and we very rarely get snow here). Ah well, we are now past the shortest day so enjoy your summer while you can 'cos that sun is heading back to us Southern Hemisphereans again soon :-))

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FarmI

Which is pretty silly given that food can't be produced or transported without fuel.

As I said, it may do that to you, but it doesn't to me. I saw a black man and he made a silly comment. His comment would have been just as silly if he'd been any colour given his size. I commented on his colour only because I had also noticed the attractiveness of his skin and because it was his unusualness (to me) and that made me pay attention to him.

And anyone who thinks that colour has anything to do with self delusion regardless of race, nationality, gender or whatever, has got to have rocks in their head.

I don't want to go through

I do know what you mean, but I don't think you know what I mean.

You are viewing it from the position of someone who lives, and has probably always lived, in a country with a very difficult (to put it mildly) race relation history with regard to those of African descent. And you have probably always been alert to it. Just as I am alert to what occurs to Aboriginals in my society.

I would similarly have noticed if the person was a native American, or a Hippy (of any gender) or a white male with a strong Appalachian accent or an rich Country Club type matron. The reason why I would have noticed these people specifically is because they are so different to the people I see around me. If he (or she) had been a white New Yorker, I possibly wouldn't have stopped to listen to what they said. The accent or appearance or colour would not have been sufficiently different or unique to my experience for me to bother with their views.

I'm aware that such a comment might get you frothing at the mouth, but if you think about how America reacted to the death of Steve Irwin (the Crocodile Hunter) and apply it to my situation then you might begin to understand what I'm on about.

I went out to dinner about a month after Irwin's death and there were about a heap of people at the table and only one of them (me) had known at the time of his death who Steve Irwin was. Steve Irwin wasn't even a blip on the radar for all these Australians. Contrast that with his profile in the US. Irwin's death was a BIG item in the US because his Ocker persona was so different to the people you see around you that he pressed buttons for Americans because he was so unusual to your experience. The fat black bloke was a similar figure for me. Unusual and thus noteworthy and worth paying attention to (even if he subsequently said something dopy).

The media molds self-image

As it tries to do in all countries.

Women see that on TV they are supposed to be young,

I know that.

I know that too.

Yes, I've read a few of them.

I forget the author's name but I remember an interview

He would have been better to go to the UK given a somewhat better history of integration. Still not great but less problematic than the US as a destination.

That would make sense and especially if you compare what happened here to what you say happened between your "indentured servants" (who were in fact convicts) and the Black slaves.

Here, the convicts were always the lowest in the immigrant pecking order and that went down through several generations as they became 'ticket of leavers', the children became 'currency lads' etc etc. It wasn't till very recently that it became fashionable to come from convict stock. (And I know that many American don't even know about your own country's convict history, which astounds me somewhat).

If you are going to start a new world order (as in starting a colony in a foreign place from immigrant stock), there has to be an aspirational aspect to 'getting on' and climbing up (or feeling that one is climbing up) the social dung heap.

Later migrant have also all had their own way of judging or assessing how they were 'getting on' in their new country. In both our countries it can be seen in cities where neighbourhoods went from being Italian ones to subsequently being Vietmanese (or whatever) ones. The Italians got on and made money and moved to 'better' places and their place was taken by the next wave of immigrants etc.

In our modern world, the young want to 'be famous' apparently. They don't specify what they will do to achieve celebrity status they apparently just aspire to 'be famous'. Silly.

Ummmm. You have forgotten what you wrote. You are now defining the need for discussion to just applying to race. I was replying to the totality of your comment which includes much more than just race.

What we

And you don't think that discussion is a part of that? How can you possibly have interaction without discussion? Other than having a lot of sex of course, which I guess is a form of interaction and which will give you the duskiness and the almond eyes if enough of it goes on over time

We need more Bella Abzugs on TV

I know who she is. She always puts me in mind of the sadly departed Mo Mowlam.

What

Shudder. I can imagine nothing worse than pizza, ribs and beer. Make it the opera, a spin-in/bobbin lace day and a home made lemonade and you're on.

True but from now on the cold gets worse for a couple of months. Sigh.

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FarmI

Me too, damn bunnies who I haven't been able to catch yet ate my sprouting melon plant(it's an 'early' variety, supposed to take around 76days from sprout to harvest, but with our weather I think it's already too late to try and start again), and the cucumbers haven't sprouted at all. Real annoyance is I had the melon in a protected area, or so I thought. I've already started working on keeping the chickens in the coops so they quit eating things, and the geese, a small foot high barrier around a plant(and a foot or so between the plant and the barrier in all directions) will keep them away, but the damn bunnies, there's so many of them(at least 10...last year our neighbors had a female bunny they wouldn't keep locked up, and my male bunny got loose, and we ended up with 3 or 4 litters of at least 4 each before I got my daddy bunny back, but a couple of their babies I didn't catch, now they're having babies, and I'm out of cages...trying to catch them on Saturday and just leave them in a cardboard box with straw and food/water overnight, then sell 'em at our stand on Sunday. Though it was funny when one time, when I caught most of the bunnies, I was putting them into a cage for a friend to take-they have a mini-farm too-one of the bunnies got loose, and ran off...right back into the live trap. Silly bunny!).

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Lilah Morgan

thanks for sending the 'Independent' article, obviously a very important piece of news. carole c.

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carolec

A trick that a friend of mine used, was to slice the frites (which ever way) and then soak them in clean water for an hour or so. This allowed them to sponge up more water and make them crispier when they were fried. Of course, I eat oven fries now. Usually large fries, rubbed with oil oil, and baked at about 400 F (about 200 C) until brown (40 min. to an hour), turning at least once to ensure even browning. I incorporate several of them into my morning omelet.

Later,

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Billy Rose

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Billy Rose

Oh. I have sympathy for the man Charlie. Growing up in the shadow of Yorba Linda, birthplace of Tricky Dick and home to his library, can twist a man's mind. Instead of the armpit of Los Angles, I "grew up" (if thats the right way to put it) behind the orange curtain (Orange County) surrounded by alfalfa, and lima bean fields. Not far from the Seal Beach Navel Weapons Station (as it was known then). I cant believe it now but I would roam the fields, when I was 5 yr. old, with a .22 rifle. Its all housing tracts now. In high school they would bus us out to Anaheim (I think), if we wanted to listen to Fred Schwartz, a virulent anti-communist. Since we weren't being monitored, we went and ditched. Great fun.

Your right, Jimmy Carter is anathema to all that is Republican. But I dont really like the Democratic Party either.

Santa Ana Register is the only newspaper I've ever seen that starts its' editorial page with a benediction. Marina del Rey was a restricted community, no Jews allowed. This is the area that B-1 Bob used to represent in Congress. Any connection between the mountain lake and La Puente is purely illusionary. Southern California, its all pose and posture.

When I finally saw Sausalito, I went home, packed my bags, and never looked back. Nice beaches in southern California but thats about it.

Im gonna go pull some weeds before it gets too hot.

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Bill Rose

Duh....this must be my dim day. I don't see how higher water content would make them "crispier when they were fried" Straight question.

Of course, I eat oven fries now. Usually large fries, rubbed with

Omelet-- not *every* morning, surely?

P.

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Persephone

We had two versions of this where i grew up in the Adirondacks of Northern New York.

Home Fries are potatoes that have been boiled and then cubed into 1/2 inch chunks. They are then fried in butter and/or oil with minced onions and seasoned with salt and pepper.

Hash Browns are raw potatoes that are shredded and fried in oil, seasoned at the table.

Sometimes for supper we had fried potatoes. Mom would pare out the eyes of several poatoes and slice them thin (skin on) with a mandoline. They were then fried in a small ammount of oil with minced onion.

All were fried until the potatoes were brown and crisp on the outside. Variations on a theme. We also occasionally had potato pankcakes as above.

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Mister Fixit

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