I believe the word you want is 'scarification'.
1 : to make scratches or small cuts in (as the skin) <scarify an area
2 : to lacerate the feelings of
3 : to break up and loosen the surface of (as a field or road)
*4 : to cut or soften the wall of (a hard seed) to hasten germination
I'd just plant a few in the ground in a straight line. Transplant if
any come up. Tell the folks on the property that these trees offer
valuable woods in time and that once folks used the seed for a tasty
brittle. Which is still worth seeking out.
Forget peanut brittle go Black Walnut if we must jeopardize our old
fillings. I do!
Don't tell anybody about this place. He was a lab tech who made custom
bikes and ended up in candy. An annual pilgrimage twice a year for us.
S Jersey USA Zone 5 Shade
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With black walnut it's important to scarify (really just removing the
husks), then plant the seeds, the natural exposure to winter while in
the ground is all the stratification that's necessary, come spring
they'll already be germinating... otherwise come spring all you'll
have is cold walnuts in the fridge of which most when planted then
will not germinate because they haven't been scarified, and then those
really should be planted in the fall, so you lose a year. All things
equal, without scarification most walnut seeds do not germinate (in
nature left to their own devices most do not germinate), most that
have been scarified do germinate. There is no need to artificially
stratify black walnut but it's important to scarify. What is most
important is to protect newly planted seed from critters otherwise
whatever you do is all for nought, squirrels will probably dig up
90pct. I would plant black walnut in individual pots that are well
protected from critters (a cold frame is good). Protect pots until
they can be field planted as two year old seedlings, and then they'll
still neeed protection from deer and other critters. You obviously
didn't read the OP carefully... my recommendation is more advantageous
Delusions of grandeur cloud your mind yet again, Sheldon.
I take care of a farm in a nearby town that has a 1/2 mile driveway
lined with black walnuts. There is no 'scarification' of any seeds,
and they come up all over the place - after they've spent the winter
outside where the squirrels decide to plant them.
Ann, gardening in Zone 6a
South of Boston, Massachusetts
You're such a liar... you've never yet proven any of your claims...
you take care of a farm, you've never set foot on a farm. Just how
you express yourself with the nonsense elaborations of a barroom sot
"a nearby town" PROVES you're a big fat pinnochio nose. Must get
boring inside your one room tenement flat in some inner city ghetto
slum... you haven't even shown you own a flower pot and you want us to
believe you babysit farms. LOL And what happened to your claim(s) of
killfiling me... weak minded LIAR! You and your asshole buddy lee
must be one and the same.
While scarifying is an alternative, it is not necessary, any more than
stratification. It may influence germination, but in nature, it doesn't
happen that much, scarification that is. Nursery's stratify black walnut,
but seldom scarify, just as they stratify other seed. Particularly in
In nature, scarification happens by a seed coat being gradually worn
away or a seed coat being cracked by freezing. Scarification is a way
to speed this up (with cutting a notch and hot water seeming to be the
preferred techniques). At least, that's what my book on propagating
woody plants says.
But each plant is different. And I don't know anything about black
walnut in particular.
Getting some instructions from someone who has propagated the
particular plant in question is recommended. Sure in nature, the
plant grows (somehow). But whether this happens quickly, or how many
seeds are needed for one seeding, or whether the seed passes through
the digestive tract of a bird or mammal in nature, or whether you can
keep a seed in the ground for months/years and recognize it as a
non-weed when it does come up, or whatever, make the garden situation
There are no animals where black walnut grows that eat black walnut
seed whole... if ever you come upon a squirrel swallowing black walnut
seed whole you'd best don your steel safety cup and get the hell outa
there fast as your widdle stumps can run.
No need to back peddle and hide behind ignorance. There are plenty of
web sites with expert instructions about how to grow black walnut (I
read a few before posting just as a refresher, I'm not a walnut tree
maven but I've lots of hickory). Under how to plant all begin by
describing how to scarify, remove the husk and notch the shell. Then
they go on to describe about stratification, only necessary in warm
climes or with large wood stand/nut harvesting operations where seed
will be planted later. But this is about someone with a tree in his
yard who merely wants to grow a few seeds... someone who as yet
refuses to say where.
Do all of yoose go through life making mountains out of molehills,
what a bunch or wild exaggeraters. Just answer the question that's
asked, stop embellishing with the barroom lush BS... just makes you
appear very ignorant.
I was just cleaning out the basement for a family of packrats. If you
let me get to the back corner, I bet I can find some.
(The trashman told me that we've been putting out more trash in front of
this house than some *neighborhoods* have. :)
I did a Google search on Black Walnuts and did not find any useful
information. This pamphlet was very helpful - thank you.
I am going to plant the seeds in pots with good garden soil and let them
stay on my patio for the winter. I will cover the pots with wire to
deter predation by squirrels. Hopefully some of them will sprout.
Any sapling I would plant in the summer/fall of 2008.
All nuts have one problem, you can't get them to germinate if they sta
dry too long. I have grown several varieties of nuts, including th
English walnut but not the black walnut. I just put all the nuts in
large tin with some moist compost, and the lid on to stop vermin eatin
them, and left them in a shed. This was in England with cold winters
It saved refridgerator space. In early spring (late March) I tippe
the lot out, sorted out those that had started to grow and potted the
on. My interest in growing them was to see if I could Bonsai them.
I had a lot more than I needed and thinking back on that time there wa
probably about 50% success. BigalJim Kingdon;748613 Wrote:
You're wrong, stratification is always necessary... scarifying is
not. But in the case at hand, a small backyard operation, it is
important to scarify to increase rate of germination. In most cases
stratification occurs naturally, but the OP refuses to say where. As
per usual usenet practice the regulars argue while the OP never
returns... this was probably yet another troll.
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