review: Red Holland versus Grey Griselle Shallot

Hi All,
This year I successfully grew (ya, me huh!) both Red Holland and Grey Griselle Shallot.
Red Holland: several bulbs the size of a golf ball scapes (yummy!) Taste of a yellow onion with a garlic overtone
Grey Griselle: lots of little tiny bulbs the size of garlic cloves sinks that can only be characterizes as "bark". You have to "saw" through hem. Taste of a yellow onion with a garlic overtone no scapes :'(
EXTREMELY STRONG. Can only be used in cooking. A "sliver" will cause severe pain in your sinuses and make your stomach lurch so hard you will almost puke.
Lessons learned: they like to be watered like any other plant. They like acid soil. The bulbs with more peat moss around them grew bigger.
My conclusion is that both of these are a pain in the ass to grow for the small amount of food they produce. And Both the wife and I like Yellow Onions better. So next year it is yellow onions instead!
I have my eye on "Senshu Yellow" yellow onions. They over winter and like zones 5 and 6 (I am 6c). Plus they give a half pound bulb.
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replying to T, Iggy wrote: Great review and very useful growing tips! However, I'm the opposition. I never understood the use of onions nor any of their cousins in anything and only found them overpowering and extremely detracting. I took them out of everything to find all was improved with ingredient flavors now being noticeably robust and enjoyed.
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On 10/11/2017 06:14 AM, Iggy wrote:

Maybe you are reacting to the sulfur content?
Can you eat broccoli? Some folks react badly to the sulfur in broccoli and can not stand being around it because of the smell that most of us can not smell.
Also, I am a Primal drug free diabetic. I can taste things far better than when I was addicted to the modern diet of extreme high carbs that injured me in the first place. (T2 Diabetes is an injury, not a disease.)
So, maybe I react differently to onions than others. I certainly did not care for then before cleaning up my diet. And my tastes did change. Before, I thought my loss of taste was "old age sucks". Now I can taste nuances I only vaguely remember from my childhood.
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replying to T, Iggy wrote: Nope, no problem with broccoli and really no problem with eating onions, I just think they're horrible. But wow, I'm more your opposite than I thought. I've been off almost all fruits, vegetables and dairy for this century and have microwaved everything for even longer, just to prove the Gov't is a liar and that nutrition has no basis in fact. So far so good, with no difference ever experienced at any time yet.
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Iggy wrote:

i love onions and garlic, green forms, raw, cooked, carmelized, roasted, deep fried, blenderized, etc.
i am not quite at the stage where i would eat an onion like an apple, but some of them that we grow are very mild and could be eaten that ways.
the garlic i grow is pretty strong. eating it raw will make your gums and tongue go numb for a while.
i like green garlic in the spring as the first crop. since i'm trying to weed it out of a patch there is always plenty.
different tastes for different people. :)
songbird
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replying to songbird, Iggy wrote: Garlic yes, onions no. However, that apple onion was one of my favorite Seinfeld's.
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On Wednesday, October 11, 2017 at 2:59:35 PM UTC-4, songbird wrote:

When I was a kid, back in the early 1950's, the milk would sometimes have an onion flavor in the spring when the cows ate the wild onions sprouting in their pastures.
Paul
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On 10/12/2017 05:33 AM, Pavel314 wrote:

The deer out here eat a lot of sage brush. Their meat tastes like hell!
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On 10/12/2017 9:06 AM, T wrote:

Just think of it as Thanksgiving sage and eat it. <G>
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On 10/12/2017 07:59 AM, George Shirley wrote:

EEEEEEYUK!!!
Love elk and moose though!
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On 10/12/2017 10:47 AM, T wrote:

A lot of white tail deer eat a lot of youpon bushes, so much so they tend to prune stand alone youpon bushes. Doesn't affect the meat as far as I can taste. Deer in Orange County, Texas seemed to like corn leaves about as good as locusts. I have run upon deer carcasses with a hoof caught in a small sweet gum tree so they can't be very smart.
I've never had a chance at eating elk or moose, have eaten a lot of armadillo, snakes of all kinds, turtles, etc. When you're hungry you will eat most anything. At my age I prefer sirloin steaks and, maybe a good roast with sweet potatoes and green beans. Can't walk far enough to hunt deer anymore and they won't let me shoot the one that beds down behind my fence. I might take up archery again or try to stick a sword between the fence boards. <G>
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On Wednesday, October 11, 2017 at 12:29:26 AM UTC-4, T wrote:

T,
I forwarded your review to my wife, who's the gardener in the family, and she replied,
"Where is he getting his Senshu Yellow stock? I don't know about that variety. I agree that shallots aren't worth the trouble: I tried growing them for years. The multiplier onions function well as shallots and are a lot easier to grow and more productive."
Paul
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On 10/11/2017 07:56 AM, Pavel314 wrote:

http://www.kitazawaseed.com/seed_135-96.html
Where is she getting her multiplier onions?
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On Wednesday, October 11, 2017 at 1:20:54 PM UTC-4, T wrote:

Territorial Seed Company in Oregon
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On 10/12/2017 05:31 AM, Pavel314 wrote:

Thank you!
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On 10/10/2017 09:29 PM, T wrote:

Oh, and I found three now deceased earwigs hiding inside the Griselle clumps of shallows, which answers that question.
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On 10/13/2017 07:01 PM, T wrote:

^^^^^^^^^^^^shallots
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