There has been some conversation on rec.food.cooking about organic
foods and especially Calmar's entry into the fray.
Someone posted this link.
I think most of the group here will be interested.
What that article tells me is, if I don't grow my own organic food, I
don't expect to be sure I get organic any place else!!
This is a very important point, Billy, as things begin to unravel and
wind down, this return to local economies. People need to begin to
support, and participate in, their local economy now, in order to get
things rolling and have people familiar with ways that have been
For sure, quality food, locally produced by hand and with care and
love, is going to be more expensive, but we currently are underpaying
for our food and as result of eating cheap foodlike substances, we are
reaping the "benefits" of being one of the most unhealthy nations on
earth, which only benefits..."them"...bigag and bigpharma. Not only
do the majority of us not know about healthy food, we don't know how
to effing prepare food. We have been led astray and abdicated our
responsibility to ourselves and our children. It's sickening in more
ways than one.
Check out this amazing young chef, both this article and the TED
video. I remember his show on FoodnetWork and was highly impressed.
He hits right between the eyes with a large hammer. Excellant
THe TED video gets right to the presentation...the Alternet article is
a transcript with video following.
Check out the other offerings on TED...
yes you grow your own and you know what you are eating, i am in
australia and i have no confidence that the organic certification
system is delivering anything more than more expensive food. and when
you see the fresh orgianic stuff on the shop shelves in the "organic"
section there is no guarantee that it is so? to me it all looks
exactly the same product.
Organic foods protect from heart disease and cancer, as they contain
Phenolic compounds. Organic food ensures high food quality, which other
conventional foods cannot give. Organic food is natural and fresh, and
thus, it is tasty. Many people prefer to grow organic food in their home
gardens, because it costs about 20% more than the conventional food.
Organic gardening uses organic seeds, organic fertilizers, compost,
organic root stimulators, and organic pest control. It has been claimed
by health experts that organic food is more nutritious. Some of the
features that can be associated with organic food are quality, good
taste, proper selection of crop varieties etc.
Many plants contain phenolic compounds, organic or not.
Some crops, such as bell peppers, show no difference at all.
It can be organic, and still have E. coli O157:H7 on it. It can be
organic and have reduced nutrients because of agricultural practices,
i.e. lack of fertilizing, or watering, or because of the weather the
It can be organic even if it is old and moldy.
It usually is, but not always (see 2nd url above).
The typical cardboard tomatoes that are grow for their durability in
shipping, and long shelf life, can be grown organically. This typically
happens at markets such as Whole Foods in the United States, because
while providing organic produce, they still employ the old industrial
paradigm of buying in large lots, storing in warehouses, and shipping
long distances to their markets. Nutrients are lost in the time it takes
to get from field to shelf. Shipping exposes produce to possible
contamination, uses fossil fuels, and degrades the environment.
I don't view the above Pollyanna approach to "organic" food as being
helpful, because it opens the door to refutation by non-organic
What we call organic food was the norm in the 30s and 40s, before the
"Green Revolution" of petroleum based fertilizers and pesticides. The
"organic" movement is just trying to get back to "real" food, without
pesticides, herbicides, and destroying the environment.
If you want food that is healthy for you, and the environment, shop at a
local CSA farm.
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