New photos of our house

[Don]

You were wise to keep the box and lit. as that makes all the difference in the world if you sell it. What it means is that you took real good care of your stuff. For a few years I bought and sold stereo equip left and right on ebay in an effort to get the best of the best.

I likes them Pioneers wif the purty blu lites. I even have a few of the accessory pieces for that series, which I wrongly quoted before. The 3700 is in the 4th series not the 3rd. I have a noise reduction and range expander as well as a reverb unit from that series. In fact, I have 2 of each, in the original boxes with manuals. I have them in both the blue lights and the green lights. My alltime preference though is from the 2nd series and my big time baby is my original SX-1250 receiver, 160 watts per ch. which I had a total makeover done on it last year and it will make your eyes bleed. You can see it here:

70lbs its not for the light hearted. If you wanna do your 3700, and your ears, some serious justice do an ebay search for some 1st series Pioneer HPM-100 speakers. You'll know the 1st series by the silver ring around the blowhole. The market is down right now for vintage stereo equipment and you can pick up a good pair of HPM's for less than $300. They go 20-20,000hz and thats farther than the human ear can grasp. You can hear the drumsticks coming OFF the symbols. Here's what they look like: price, but you better hurry, the auction is over in 36 mins. Or, go whole hog and grab up the daddy's in this series: wife will kill you. LOL

[nomail]

Please post some pictures of the paint drying.

[PreacherMan]

in your picture of the hot water heater / water softener, please tell me that white vertical plastic pipe to the right of the heater (that looks like $hit) is not a gas line !

if it is, you need to have whoever did that shoddy job to do over.

if it's a suction line for the salt tank, make them do it over anyway, it looks like $hit !

[longshot]

It probably should be galvanized pipe or at least metal hose. I don't like the idea of pvc foe gas lines

[Big_Jake]

Look closer - The gas line should enter on the left side of the gas valve. It is open in the photo, so gas line isn't run yet.

BTW, Galvanized isn't code in my area, but black pipe would be.

JK

[Gary Slusser]

Softener

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Louisiana

They used CPVC for the gas line to the water heater. IIRC, CPVC is not rated for gas, and I'm pretty sure the valve is not. You really want to check on that before you have a gas leak etc.. Normally black iron pipe or yellow flex is used.

Also, the picture isn't that good to see detail but the galvanized piece that comes out of the right side up toward the top, that should be a T/P relief valve, is it?

If not that's as dangerous as the wrong gas line material. There is supposed to be a water line from the T/P valve (I don't see one, just the galvanized pipe with something black on the end?) with plumbing down toward the floor or to the outside so that hot water can exit the tank to relieve pressure/temperature build up in case of emergency where the water is heated too hot or the pressure exceeds the limit. Otherwise the water heater tank explodes.

You need to check both for code compilance and proper material and a T/ P valve.

Gary Quality Water Associates

[Steve Barker]

The cpvc is actually a return line plumbed into the drain c*ck port. The gas line hasn't been run yet.

here's a larger view.

[Steve Barker]

Galvanized isn't code for what? Code doesn't say galv is not allowed on gas, it's just not preferred.

[Eigenvector]

Quick hijack question - is black pipe black because of rust protection - i.e. as in gun blueing or parkerizing. I understand the difference between blueing and parkerizing by the way, but I didn't have the proper term for it off the top of my head.

[DanG]

I agree with Gary, there needs to be a T&P valve on the tank that is piped to the floor. I'm not sure which room you are in or which code your jurisdiction uses, but I suspect the hot water tank needs to be on an pedestal that gets the flame over 18" off the floor.

[Steve Barker]

The 18" thing only applies to when it's in a garage area.

[Edwin Pawlowski]

Depends on where you live. I know for a fact that the town where I work will not approve galvanized.

warning: Check condition of flexible gas line connections: Caution: we do not pull out appliances to look at gas line connections, but you should do so, checking condition of flexible connections for leaks and assuring that a shutoff valve is installed. Watch for leaks in those flex-connector lines between gas line and the appliance as they are thin wall and often corrode and leak. Gas leaks are dangerous. Safety warning. Flexible soft copper piping has been used to supply municipal (natural) gas to the ... electric clothes dryer. ... hot water heater. ... heating system. This is not a recommended installation and it may be prohibited by local codes - "black iron" steel piping is required in many jurisdictions.

[Big_Jake]

Galvanized is not allowed for gas in my area. I am in SE Wisconsin. I am pretty sure that flex stainless lines are also a no-no for us on water heaters. Here we see mostly black pipe, and occasionally flex pipe such as Wardflex(tm) for "snaking" through floors and walls.

JK

[Don]

"Gary Slusser"> wrote

I have both, black iron and yellow flex and just recently paid $1.75/ft for some brand new blue flex. The original line, 100' of 1/4" bare copper tubing, underground from 500 gal tank to house, was replaced with the yellow flex. Thats right, 1/4" copper tubing. Can you imagine? LOL

[Don]

"DanG"> wrote but I suspect the hot water

Whats the reason for that? Mine is sitting in an overflow pan right on the floor.

[Steve Barker]

I don't see the reference to "galvanized".

[Steve Barker]

Can you cite the code or provide a link for that?

[DanG]

I could not tell from his picture, it is required for garage installations. Some inspectors are liking the idea so much they prefer it on all installs. Has to do with explosive, heavier than air, vapors. We even have one that wants electric 2 1/2 gallon ones elevated.

Galvanized pipe is a no-no for gas.

[Edwin Pawlowski]

Read the last line. It does not say galvanized is not allowed, but does say black is preferred. As I said, it is not allowed by our local inspector in MA, but it may be in your town. I don't argue with our local guy as it is easier to do what he wants.

[Steve Barker]

And it is inspectors like these that cause trouble. When they make their own rules, where does it stop? And the galvanized pipe is strictly a "not recommended" thing. It's not against code.

To elevate an electric water heater is just stupid and ridiculous. The whole point is to prevent gasoline vapors that could possibly gather at the floor of a garage from igniting on a GAS unit. Any other unit, and any other place, it's ignorant to elevate it.