Lie. Before antibiotics showed up, those infected with the
worst bugs were just left to die. That is why parents of that
era were so obsessed about disinfecting, those consequences.
The worst of those bugs around around anymore, they
were wiped out by antibiotics, to be replaced by others
due to antibiotic resistance half a century or so later.
If it was as simple as that stupid woman claims in her article,
we wouldnt see hospitals as the worst places for bad bugs
today, because they could just continue to use bleach etc and
wipe out those bugs that have developed antibiotic resistance
in hospitals. Doesnt happen, because she is just plain wrong.
And this bit is flagrantly dishonest
Unlike antibiotics, current scientific evidence does not
demonstrate a link between the use of antimicrobial-biocidal
products and the emergence of biocide or antibiotic resistance.2,3
Turns out that those two references are to
2. Anderson RL, Carr JH, Bond WW, Favero MS. Susceptibility
of Vancomycin-Resistant Enterococci to Environmental Disinfectants.
Infection Control and Hospital Epidemiology. 1997; 18: 195-199.
3. Rutala WA, Stiegel MM, Sarubbi FA, Weber DJ. Susceptibility
of Antibiotic-Susceptible and Antibiotic-Resistant Hospital Bacteria
to Disinfectants. Infection Control and Hospital Epidemiology. 1997; 18:
Those two are clearly NOT discussing resistance to the use of
bleach etc at all.
Pity they dont eliminate them. Funny that.
Lie. Doesnt explain why the use of bleach in hospitals hasnt
stopped those antibiotic resistant organisms in their tracks.
It does on the surface it's being applied to.
Tell us how using bleach on a kitchen counter will "breed better bugs".
Explain to us how a germ will develop resistance to being physically
We know how germs develope anti-biological resistance, so explain the
other for us.
And that answers the objection that if disinfectants could kill germs
very effectively why hospitals still have nasty microbes running around.
The answer is that hospitals still hvae nasty microbes running around
for two reasons: one, they are full of germ factories (also known as
"patients"); two, it is not possible to evacuate all the air from the
hospital and then submerge the entire hospital in bleach or some other
disinfectant. There are going to be spots which are missed.
Nope, what is possible in hospitals is completely different to kitchens.
That problem was solved more than a century ago with isolation wards etc.
The worst of them arent airborne.
How odd that that works with surgerys and surgical instruments.
Perfectly possible to santize the wards so patients that
dont arrive with a bad bug dont get infected in the hospital.
And that is in fact done in the research operations
that do research on the worst of the bad bugs.
The problem is that when those extreme measures arent used,
you dont get 100% kills with bleach, so you do breed bad bugs.
Its stupid to be doing that in a kitchen where
normal cleanliness is perfectly adequate.
Iodine is still used. When I had surgery to correct my majorly
screwed up toenail, the hospital staff told me I had to rub some
iodine stuff all over the lower half of my whole leg thoroughly.
By your logic, this is a bad practice because it breeds iodine
resistant bacteria. Nevertheless, it is still a standard thing
to do before an operation.
How do the germs know whether they're in a kitchen or someplace else
like a hospital? It seems like germs would respond to the same chemical
in the same way no matter where the germs are located. If it breeds
bad bugs in a kitchen, then it will in a hospital too, and vice versa.
If it did breed bad bugs, then why would hospitals disinfect things at
such a critical time as right before an operation?
They dont necessarily get the same chemical as in a hospital
where real care is taken to ensure that the right mixture of say
bleach is used which ensure enough active ingredient, let alone
the same level of application to everywhere like the floors etc.
Wrong, what matters is those that dont get killed.
Because they can ensure that its done right with a very high kill rate.
That was not however enough before antibiotics were invented.
Part of the anti-biotics-resistancy problem is simply mis-use.
Over-Exposure - patients insisting on anti-biotics even for viral
infections - and stopping them to early, i.e. putting them away when
the sickness has passed, but not all bacteria have been killed.
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