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I need a band saw type of machine. I say type, because I do not need a large band saw to make big cuts, but rather a small one with a blade with up and down motion to cut small designs and pieces.
Is there a standard in the industry for a decent one of these that doesn't cost an arm and a leg, or will any old one do? I need one that has the blade at least one foot from the back. I guess that would be called the throat? I will do small pieces, but if I ever want to do something a little bigger, it would do it.
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It sounds like you want a scroll saw.

If you really want a band saw, here's a small one for $200:
http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/2080327/28906/Rikon-10-Bench-Top-Bandsaw-Model-10305.aspx
It's only a 10" saw, though.
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On Sep 1, 12:08 am, " snipped-for-privacy@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz"

Has the advantage over a bandsaw that it can do blind holes.
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Yep scroll saw. They used to be more popular than they are now. Big among older hobbiests doing cute patterns. Check craigs list under tools for scroll saw. You can find them for $50 and less. Like this http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/tls/1926435091.html
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Yep scroll saw. They used to be more popular than they are now. Big among older hobbiests doing cute patterns. Check craigs list under tools for scroll saw. You can find them for $50 and less. Like this http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/tls/1926435091.html
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with the warranty.
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Lobby Dosser wrote:

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00921602000P?blockNo=1&blockType=G1&prdNo=1
Or get one for $70 total (less the ubiquitous 20% off coupons) here: http://www.harborfreight.com/16-inch-variable-speed-scroll-saw-93012.html
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http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00921602000P?blockNo=1&blockType=G1&prdNo=1
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If you intend to do fine quality inlay or nice cuts you want to get a good saw that the blade moves up and down. The typical low cost machine moves in an arc and a lot of chatter and movement will occur.
I forget the brand name but it is RED IIRC - a friend had one.
Had a unique name. Not a common name of other hand tools.
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Hegner.
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Lobby Dosser wrote:

Yep, although at the Hegner price at about $1400 I'd opt for the DeWalt 788 at around $500
(Amazon.com product link shortened)
http://toolsandmore.us/dewalt-dw788-scroll-saw.aspx
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If you spend 10 hrs/day scrolling and/or you sell your work, Hegner's fine. I use my $35 Delta 13" occasionally and it suffices.
I found an old Workmate at a garage sale this morning for ten bucks. It appears to be about 6x more functional and sturdy than my $18 HF workmutt clones. </gloat>
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That sounds like it it - Hegner.
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The handtool for this is a coping saw, with a jig called a bird's- mouth (really just a notched board to support the work). Fine blades for a jewelry saw can be employed to make narrow cuts.
A rod saw or wiresaw blade can make cuts in any direction. Conductive materials can be cut by electrical discharge (but this is a woodworking group, so that's probably not relevant).
If you get tired of doing it by hand, scroll saw or jigsaw or bandsaw motorized tools do about the same thing. If you want a REAL power tool, laser numerically controlled gizmos are the next big step up. Somewhere in the same vicinity are fluid-jet cutters (water and abrasive will go through hard materials well, but I'm not sure how well they'd work on wood).
Beware, though, using a fine blade means you aren't getting carbide- tool blade life. It's gonna take a fifty-pack of blades to grow proficient with a scrollsaw. A fine tooth bandsaw blade has thousands of teeth in contact with the cut, a jigsaw will use the same dozen teeth over and over until they get dull...
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The handtool for this is a coping saw, with a jig called a bird's- mouth (really just a notched board to support the work). Fine blades for a jewelry saw can be employed to make narrow cuts.
Change the word coping to fret.
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The handtool for this is a coping saw, with a jig called a bird's- mouth (really just a notched board to support the work). Fine blades for a jewelry saw can be employed to make narrow cuts.
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IIRC, Dremel used to make a powered version. No table. Hand held. See them now and again a flea markets.
Or build your own foot powered scroll saw:
http://www.vintageprojects.com/power-tools/scrollsaw.html
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Coping saws cost a buck at flea markets. I used to buy hack saw blades 10for $1.00,untill my SIL got me two from sears for x-mis ten years ago. I can saw all day and they don't pop on the second stroke. Buy one good one and don't waste your money on China CRAP!!!! Jr.
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