Review: Wixey Digital Angle Gauge

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Hi Folks,
For all who are interested and/or curious. I put the Wixey Digital Angle Gauge to the test in my Metrology Lab this week. Results are here:
http://www.ts-aligner.com/ts-aligner-jr-lite-vs-wixey.htm
Let me know if you have any questions/comments.
Enjoy!
Ed Bennett snipped-for-privacy@ts-aligner.com http://www.ts-aligner.com
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Interesting - thanks for the review. Everything I've heard about this little gauge has been positive! One comment, since you asked... The page linked above doesn't fit properly with either browser I tried (Firefox 2.0.0.1 or Safari 2.0.4, both for Mac OSX). The text and photos are laid out much to wide for the browser window, so I have to scroll side to side to read each line. Don't know anything about web design, so I can't suggest what might be wrong, but I thought I'd provide some user feedback. Thanks again, Andy
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Me too. (I'm on Linux/Firefox). I think the background art is the problem.
It's really a pain to have to scroll right and left several tiimes just to read a couple of lines.
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Using IE, it looks just fine.
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text for the width or the window.

some non-standard IE-specific way of formatting text.
Looking at the source, I found the following hint as to possibly why: <meta name="GENERATOR" content="Microsoft FrontPage 5.0">
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"alexy" wrote in message

Bullshit ... as with most woodworking, it's not the tool, it's the operator.
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Well, I certainly agree with you on ultimate responsibility. And I'm sure there are lots of well-bahaved sites created with front page. But I also suspect that it is much easier to create IE-specific non-standard html in frontpage than in many other authoring tools.
But this is just speculation, subject to change based on comments from web authoring experts. One has posted here pretty much confirming my suspicion.
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"alexy" wrote in message

Well, a former "web authoring" expert, who was on the beta before VM FP 1.0 was released some 14 years ago, long before MSFT and most of today's "web authoring experts" could spell "www", still says bullshit.
It's a tool, and like any other tool that is perhaps too easy to use in the hands of the plentiful and ubiquitous dufus of today, it is often misused ... and, just like in woodworking, irrational kneejerks will continue to blame the tool because of the brand.
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Swingman wrote:

In this particular case it may have been operator error. But do you deny that in the interest of "productizing" Microsoft has added several nonstandard "extensions" to the HTML generated by Front Page?
The original statement that use of FP made it more likely that other browsers could not read a page so generated was and is true. It's happened all too often. It even happened way back when IE and Netscape were the only choices.
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"Larry Blanchard" wrote in message

Of course they did ... and you knew that before you posted the question. But then, so did Netscape. IIRC, at the time there was no reasons to not to, and all for the most practicial of reasons, reasons that were at the time in the spirit of the original specification - to solve immediate problems with a new medium.
That said, many of those reasons have now grown to a signifcance that rivals that of relgious fundamentalism.

About the only time I've ever seen any browser I use, and I've used them all, to "not read a page" at all was with bullshit like "Flash" ... much worse than MSFT ever was in subverting the www HTML spirit, IMO.

I don't really don't use IE, except as a check when I do my little ww web page these days, mostly I use FF by choice. All my FP webs have always been read handily by any browser I use since day 1.
There is simply no excuse in blaming the tool if they don't.
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Sorry folks.
Yes, it's the operator. Yes, I use FrontPage. No, it doesn't produce pretty-perfect code. But, I just don't have the time to muddle around hand coding everything. And, I've seen some pretty ugly (and mostly non-functional) hand coded pages too. Bottom line, I'm responsible for the code on my site no matter how I decide to generate it. So, I apologize for the mishap.
There are a whole bunch of photos showing the results of each angle test. I wanted a way to give people easy access to them without forcing everyone to go through each photo. So, I used a FrontPage photo gallery. I re-did the page using smaller photos (for those who wish to view the page using a 640x480 display) and corrected an oversight in the table definition (a fixed width when it should have been variable).
Try it now and let me know if it works any better.
Thanks, Ed Bennett snipped-for-privacy@ts-aligner.com http://www.ts-aligner.com

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"Ed Bennett" wrote in message

Ditto ... please don't misconstrue the "dufus" remark in my previous, it was not intended to include either of us. :)

Looking at the original earlier, that is exactly what appeared to be the cause.
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No problem. I think the original was offered in the spirit of alerting you to something you probably weren't aware of; I know mine was.

page opened in identically sized Firefox and IE windows, so you can see what is happening. Text is not wrapping correctly.
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I have a 1400x1050 monitor (Firefox 1.5.0.10/Linux), and the page http://www.ts-aligner.com/ts-aligner-jr-lite-vs-wixey.htm is not wide enough. The paragraph starting with "I used my Starrett AG16LM angle set as standards for the testing." is three lines long, and I have to scroll back and forth 5 times to read three lines.
I have my default font set to "16"
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Ed Bennett wrote:

Fixed it for me. I'm using Firefox 1.0.6 with Slackware Linux 10.1.
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Ed Bennett wrote:

FWIW...
I enjoyed your test and can care less what the page looked like. It got the information across.
If folks want to see what a REALLY basic page can look like, try this:
http://www.duats.com /
The first page you'll hit is as fancy as it gets, but it works great.
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B A R R Y wrote:

Ed is selling stuff ... you aren't.
Contrary to casual appearances, Ed is not running these tests as a public service ... he's making a case for why you should buy his device in preference to the Wixley device. And ... except in one extremely limited circumstance ... he's right.
But making the reader work for the information is likely to kill his sales pitch ... and his sales.
Your viewers apparently need your site more than you need them. If the situation were reversed, your web site design would change or you would go out of business.
I think Ed understands something about our comments that you do not. I think he understands that our comments are intended to help him make a buck. I, personally, would like for him to get feeelthy stinking rich so he could buy stuff from me. ;-) Lots of stuff!
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For chuckles I ran the validator.w3.org test on this page, and it found 66 errors.
It's very humbling...
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<meta name="GENERATOR" content="Microsoft FrontPage 5.0"> is probably the culprit.
My day job is connected to web geeking. I see a page this bad (abused <blockquote>, <font>, <table>) and I really can't bear to look at it.Post a link to c.i.w.a.h / alt.html.critique and you might get some suggestions or even a makeover.
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