Anyone here who has installed new upper kitchen cabinets
single handed ? I'm wondering if I should install the lower
cabinets first and use them to block & raise the upper cabinets
to the proper heigth ?
No, put a temporary ledger board at the proper height on the wall and
use it and a brace. The lower cabinets in place are far more difficult
to work around and invite scratched fronts, etc., while doing the uppers
despite the idea of using them as support.
I always install the uppers first ... just make sure that you take into
account the proper alignment of the base cabinets whilst doing so.
Take a look at one of the kitchen projects on my projects page (IIRC, it is
the 2005 one), which has a pretty good step by step of a typical kitchen
On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 07:32:06 -0700, Limp Arbor wrote:
I applaud your principles, but for my next minor but awkward job I need
something slightly different..
We have an 'island' of four curved-corner desks at work where all the
tall people sit (we gravitated together - must be magnetism or
something). The desks are a bit like these: <http://www.onlinedesks.co.uk /
The boss is quite happy to pay (a smallish amount) for the wood and
fixings to raise them 2-3" as long as I can make it 'look as good as the
originals' and do it on my own time (since it's for me, not the company).
He has explicitly ruled out 'shoving some bricks under the feet'.
The construction is a beech veneered laminate top, with steel/beech legs
on the ends and a single leg at the back corner, with modesty boards
joining them. Because the modesty boards lock the legs all together into
a stable unit, the top just sits on them and is held on with screws and
My plan is to undo the top, lift it a few inches, insert matching beech
risers along the top of the legs and at intervals along the (hidden) tops
of the modesty boards, then fix it all back together.
The desks have tons of computers with awkward wiring, papers etc. on them
and I'll be doing it in the evening, so I want to do it fairly quickly. I
was wondering if there's a good way to lift the whole desktop stably to
put the risers in without clearing it and putting everything back - which
would add at least a half hour to each desk!
I have a car trolley jack I could use, but a single lifting point isn't
going to be stable enough, I'd have thought. Any ideas?
Also, any comments about the general idea of just putting risers in?
I've done this once or twice with a car jack and 2x4s. This was to move
the desk, so it only had to get off the floor.
You might get it up far enough with a couple of screw jacks... Put one
under each side (maybe with a 2x4 under the desk supports to spread the
weight) and just turn one side and then the other. Put a level on the
desk and try to keep it level as it goes up.
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There are cabinet lifts available
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but for a one-off job you're probably just as good using a ledger board.
An article in Fine Homebuilding suggested aligning/joining a run of
upper cabinets with them sitting on the floor then lifting them all
together as a unit and shimming between the cabinets and the wall as
necessary. This ensures that the cabinets are all perfectly aligned
even if the wall isn't flat.
I haven't done a kitchen yet, but it seems to make sense.
I have installed many wall cabinets by myself. The easiest method is to
install a temporary ledger board on the wall and get it leveled first.
Align the top of the board where you want the bottom of the cabinet to be.
Then you can set the cabinet on the board and let it support the majority
of the weight of the cabinet while you fasten it in place. You'll still
need to lean against the cabinet a bit to keep it from falling, but it
takes very little effort. I like to find the stud locations with a
studfinder and mark them on the ledger board, and above the height of the
cabinet before hoisting the cabinets in place. Just makes things a little
more efficient. When the cabinets are installed, unscrew the ledger board
and take it down.
Of course, attaching a ledger means you'll have a few screw holes in the
wall when you're done. A little spackling and a dab of paint will make them
disappear easily enough, but for times when I don't want the holes, I
installed my base cabinets first. Then I built a couple of small boxes the
height of the distance between the base and wall cabinet. Make it just
slightly shorter than you need so you can add a plywood shim or something
on top. You will want to be able to remove the box when you are done
installing the cabinet. :) It's easy to take out the shim then remove the
box. This method also has the advantage of completely supporting the
cabinet, leaving your hands free to position and fasten the cabinet.
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