I found exactly the opposite, yesterday. People were so scared they
wouldn't move. They drove too *slow* (as in stopped) and the snow
under them turned to ice. There wasn't a chance to blow lanes clear
of pack the snow before it turned to ice. People stopped at the
bottom of hills. They're probably still there.
The other big problem is that there are no Winter tires here (myself
included) and many are running slicks.
Then there are the truly stupid, like the guy that did a 3-point
U-turn in front of me, into a driveway that was declined about 5' in
40'. Of course he was driving a 2WD pickup with no weight in the
back. I was also driving a pickup (no weight) but I have good tires
and was smart enough to pick the next driveway (flat). Some bozo
couldn't even manage that driveway and drove over the person's lawn to
Their trucks don't looks especially good for snow; top and front
heavy, with RWD.
I tell people that the "shoulder is your friend" but here there are
many places there is no shoulder, only a 20' drop to the woods below.
Same thing happened tonight on the way home (two days after the snow).
Some moron got stuck on the same hill and cops had the road blocked
off. I had to drive ~10Mi around. There is still a lot of ice
around, where the sun couldn't get at it.
I don't. It's a new truck so has new tires but it does get a little
goosy going up slick hills. My wife has been stuck at home since
Monday and is about to go over the wall. I went into work at noon and
called back to tell her to forget it.
On 1/29/2014 3:59 PM, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
That's the problem w/ large portions east of the Mississippi...we're
flat (a hill means can't see most all of a passenger car coming, a "big"
hill means the combine instead :) ). There's a nice bar ditch along
that stretch of highway but narrow shoulders; fortunately it is 3-lane
paved and the other guy was under control enough give me enough
clearance to get across the turn before he got there---he could also see
what was happening and waved me across when he saw me hesitate for the
frac I wasn't sure which to try...
The really irritating part is the out-of-control guy was nearly a full
half-mile away when I got on in front of him just leaving the light at
the intersection where the two highways cross. I turned my signal
blinker on while he still had most of that left to modulate with
probably 3/8-ths of a mile to go to let him know to time his arrival
appropriately. He _still_ hammered it and was over the posted dry-
condition 45 mph limit by the time he was nearing I'm sure...not all
"pros" are (or at least in any way other than the pay).
Last Wednesday morning one of those drivers got stuck on the railroad tracks
just north of Gainesville... the AMTRAK train I was on hit the car shortly
after the driver abandoned it. Net result was a tow truck was needed to
pull the car out of the front of the train and we had a 2 hour 20 minute
delay... I saw thousands of abandoned and trapped cars... 3-5 lane wide
parking lots that went on for mile after mile! Glad we skirted most of the
problems... ran into some closed roads though as so many cars were abandoned
that they were blocked to further traffic. Crazy!
lunch" at noon, but the white crap was coming down pretty good - and
it was that grainy crap - not nice soft flakes - which made the roads
slippery as goose shit. The pick-em-up has snows and posi - but trying
to get around the corner from Weber Street to Columbia in Waterloo
the truck wanted to go straight ahead whether I had the brakes or the
gas on, and regardless which way I had the wheels turned. The snow
bank stopped me. Then I had to stop again when there were about a
dozen vehicles trying to make it up the grade in 6 inches of snow - I
went all the way up the hill crosswise, and decided to just go home
(another 2 blocks on the level) instead of another 10 miles of country
hills and curves.
Sometimes it's all about knowing when to quit!!!
Hmm. When I lived in Vermont, it was no problem. The roofs stayed
cold enough that ice dams weren't a problem. Well, in the houses that
weren't built in the '70s or early '80s.
Here in GA it might be more of a concern. Though we only got a couple
of inches of snow and it'll probably all be gone Saturday.
The issue was the attic getting warmer than freezing while the eves
were colder. Any water then gets "dammed" by the ice over the eves.
This shouldn't be a problem, in this case, because the roof will be
the same temperature, as it warms. Assuming a ventilated attic and
insulation, of course.
A good idea. I'm one of the ones in a city ill prepared for two inches
Here they don't even require tar paper, let alone ice damn membrane. Not
sure how well the membrane works, but I had it put in.
I've got a truck across the street that slid backwards and wedged itself
in between a phone pole and a cement wall. Almost no damage now, but I
imagine that won't be the case when it is pulled out!
Southerners do not understand ice and snow. I hear a car at this very
moment gunning the engine trying to move.
On 1/30/2014 10:01 AM, email@example.com wrote:
I know that even a well insulated attic , well ventilated will still damn.
The problem is the sun and air, it will melt the snow, and that will
refreeze at night if cold enough (usually is). Then the rethaw will
start the process over.... And that is where the problem occurs.
When my house was built, they did not have the glue down membranes in
use regularly. Now I believe they do. I am due for a new roof, but it
will likely be a second layer.. so not really ideal for a membrane.
The problem that bit me several years ago was not caused by the
roof. It was caused by the gutters.
When there is snow followed by subfreezing temps, the sun melts the
snow, which drains into the gutters, where it freezes immediately.
Usually this isn't too much of a problem. But a few years back,
things combined just wrong. We'd had enough of that cycle to
completely fill the gutters. Then we got more snow, then the snow
melted from all but the eves. Then we got freezing rain. The
gutters kept the eves cold enough to freeze the saturated snow,
then the rain backed up behind that.
I keep saying that I'll put emergency heating cables in the gutters.
Maybe next year.
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