New lock

I want to replace my front door lock (uPVC door) with a new lock that has a turn knob for the inside rather than having to use the key to lock it, and a normal key lock for the outside. It is a euro type cylinder. I have looked in B&Q and couldn't see one like that. My neighbour got a locksmith to do it and paid a fortune for the privilege!! It is such a simple job I want to DIY................can anyone suggest a supplier online. I have looked at www.locksonline.com but because I need an 85cm long one (slightly longer would be ok) I was wondering if there was anyone any cheaper/better?
TIA
Angela
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I was going to suggest Walters Group, since I've bought from them, but then realised it's the same company.
Looking at their cylinder prices, there is a fair choice of products and the prices look reasonable to me.
Two things. Check the dimensions very carefully. It is quite common for the cam not to be central along the length of the barrel, so that matters as well as overall 85mm length,
Secondly, the knob is not lockable, so if the door has a glass panel you do have a potential security risk. On the other hand, if you are concerned about quick exit in case of fire, then this may be acceptable to you.
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Yes they look pretty reasonable, just wanted to see if there were cheaper!!
I need 40 on the inside and 45 on the outside, I have emailed them to check the sizing. Fire safety is an issue but the reason I want to change is much more simple - I locked myself out!! the door slammed to but the keys were still in the door so although 2 of my neighbours had keys (because I always feared this would happen) I couldn't get back in.....................had to pay 75 for a locksmith to come with a sturdy tool to pull the keys out. Good job I had keys he would have charged me another 70 to take the lock out which he said would involve breaking the handle too............and of course a replacement lock..........I doubt I would have seen much change out of 200!!
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However, it may not be acceptable to your insurance company. Check that it does not invalidate your household contents insurance.
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You could simply get a cylinder pair where having the keys in one side does not prevent you operating the cylinder on the other. Some do, some don't. Alternatively, fit a lock that does not slam lock.
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Apparently to have a door that doesn't shut behind me requires replacement of the whole locking mechanism, the locksmith said it would be about 250 + vat!
Any idea where I can get a double cylinder?
Angela
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That sounds like a multi-point lock.

I buy mine from a traditional locksmith, rather than one of the places that calls itself a Security Centre and charges extra for doing so. Most DIY sheds sell Europrofile cylinders, but I'm not sure whether they do the asymmetric type you need. However a symmetrical 45/45 would only mean that the cylinder protrudes and extra 5mm on the inside, which is less of a security issue than if it stuck out further on the outside. If the cylinder is marked to show that one end should be on either the outside or the inside of the door, it is probably biased, the way yours is, and will not let you operate it from one side if there is a key in the other. Mine are reversible and allow me to work the lock from either side, irrespective of whether a key is in the other side or not.
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I emailed one of the companies I found online and the reply I got was:
As the key pushes a clutch, inside the cylinder, from side to side, there isn't a conventional cylinder available that allows you to operate the lock from the outside, if the key is on the inside.
So I'm not sure a lock such as you describe even exists! So now I'm not sure what to do.
Angela
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http://www.lockcentre.com/popup.cfm?p_n 140&p_i140
If not try http://www.lockcentre.com and do a search on Euro
Changing the cylinder is quite easy. There is a long screw which you have to undo. The screw is accessible when the door is open (i.e. is in the edge of the door). The head of the screw will be just below the deadlock. You may have to remove a plate first - undo two small screws first
When you have removed the long screw you can just push the Euro cylinder out.
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On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 18:49:33 +0000 (UTC), "Michael Chare"
You'll probably need to put the key in and rotate the cylinder first, then it should just slip out easily. Plenty of people (posters here too) have removed the screw and wondered why it still doesn't move.
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