Machine Mart - small claim

I was under the impression that the key point of the moneyclaim online facility is that it can all be dealt with without a court appearance. Hence it sounds like they are trying scare tactics...

Reply to
John Rumm
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IIRC Moneyclaim online just allows you to file the claim without filling in paper forms and delivering them to your local court. If the defendent files a defence the case is reallocated to a court local to the customer. I don't speak from first hand experience as I have only used the paper system.

Reply to
Mark

^^^^^^^^^

Supplier. When I sued a 2nd hand car dealer in Small Claims Court, the case was heard in the vendors local court.

Reply to
Huge

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That's unusal. It is normally the customer that gets the choice. Was there any special circumstances?

Reply to
Mark

I thought it was local to the orginal plaintiff.

Reply to
Dave Liquorice

I think it suggests (or maybe requires) a mediation stage first, but failing that, you end up in court, I think it's geared to being "friendly" to the small guy representing himself, with a presumption against huge costs, even if you lose

I'm sure there's an element of that, OTOH maybe they're make on offer "on the court steps" ...

Reply to
Andy Burns

The default is that the claim will be heard in the court nearest the defendant. However, if the defendant is a business and the claimant a consumer the case will be allocated to a court near the claimant if they so request.

Reply to
Peter Parry

True, but he wouldn't have accepted it of they hadn't misinformed him; we'l l only offer a credit note, you've opened the box.

I believe the T&Cs have to be available and agreed before the contract; you can't amend them afterwards. If it's your argument that he agreed to anoth er contract by accepting the credit note, putting the T&Cs on the credit no te suggests he hadn't seen them when agreeing to take it.

Reply to
Onetap

only offer a credit note, you've opened the box.

can't amend them afterwards. If it's your argument that he agreed to another contract by accepting the credit note, putting the T&Cs on the credit note suggests he hadn't seen them when agreeing to take it.

I see nothing whatsoever about credit notes on their current Store T&C on their website.

Reply to
polygonum

There should be a pre-action protocol followed in any case. The court would most likely criticise the plaintiff if they could not show they gave the retailer a reasonable chance to resolve the issue first. Court action is, and should always be, a last resort.

Most likely before that.

Reply to
Mark

he impression that the key point of the moneyclaim online

They have sent me for N180 ... and on that 2 points ... Sect A ... Do you agree to this case being referred to the Small Claims Mediation Service .... any reason I should not tick YES ?

Sect D ... About the hearing At which county court would you prefer the small claims hearing to be head ?

Papers were served at Northampton CC, should I leave it as there or am I better or worse off if I request local CC ?

This claim was submitted via Money Claim on Line

Reply to
Rick Hughes

No & if you don't you will look bad.

Which CC will make no difference. Choose the one that's most convenient for you.

Reply to
usenet2013xxa

It may look bad if you don't.

Request a local court unless you want to travel to Northhampton.

Reply to
Mark

A local CC will may actually be an advantage, as it may make it even more likely that no-one from the company will turn up and the OP will win by default.

SteveW

Reply to
SteveW

All Money Claim papers are served through Northampton.

Reply to
Huge

Onto step 2 now ... have submitted the form they wanted (where they issued counter claim of almost 8x value of goods in travel costs.

I have accepted Mediation path ... and also again stated I will accept wither of following:

  1. a credit note they will honour
  2. refund
  3. return of goods - I can sell elsewhere

I am hoping that court will look favourably on the fact that I am being fully reasonable.

Reply to
Rick Hughes

Why are you accepting return of the goods if they were not fit for purpose? That's contradictory.

Reply to
usenet2013xxa

Not sure I would offer to take the goods back since you already rejected them once as being crap...

Reply to
John Rumm

+1 I think MM might use that against you in court
Reply to
Lobster

Update on this ..... Mediation went ahead, not sure why Machine Mart opted for it they refused any compromise or to accept any offer. Machine Mart stated contractually they have provided a Credit note with stated T&C's and have met them. Although Mediator tried to position morally they had not explained time limit, and they could keep a long term customer by making a compromise they refused.

They were not interested that original item was "not fit for purpose"

Now been told if I want it to go before a judge it will be another £25 fee and a further £25 costs if I don't win.

Reply to
Rick Hughes

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