I have used a commercial additive via a hose dispenser when flushing my boat engine after use in slat water .....
That product is no more, and looked at the competition ...
No doubt does a good job but at £74 for less than 4 Litre this is more expensive than single malt.
Just wondering what would actually be in this, and whether I could make up my own mix.
WD40?
Buy a RO filter and flush the salt out with pure water.
Trisodium Phosphate.
click on "PDF FILE" and look at page 5.
I don't think you'll get much of a malt for £13 for a 70cl bottle, tbh.
Interesting that the SDS was written in English (eg colour not color) for the American regulator. Does that mean they actually can spell properly but only when nobody's looking?
I'm still wondering which single malts come in at 74 quid for 4 litres (though I take the general point)
well £19.47 a litre for SaltAway ... I was thinking of £14 a bottle of Single malt ... but then my mistake ... the bottles are only 330ml
I don't drink so my error.
I only pay $30 for a litre of Southern comfort.
66% water ... £74 for 4L ... and more than half of it is water.
So you can see keen to find a home brew version.
the TSP quantity in mix is unknown, and the other key item 'corrosion inhibitor' (Tall Oil, Sodium Salt) again don't know quantity of it.
OK ... the file gives
3% TSP (cheap and easy to buy) 12% Tall Oil, Sodium Salt (seems it's a by-product from wood pulp cellulose extraction) 10% coupling agent.So again maybe there is a Chemist lurking who could advise how I could make up my home brew and what the 'coupling agent' would be to create the mix.
I could make myself up 25Litre .. last me my lifetime.
bottle,
Both interpetations of "get much of a malt" in Lidl I would of thought. Both quantity and quality ... B-)
TBH what is suposed to happen if you don't flush the engine after running in salt water? Surely by the time you've pottled out of the salt via brackish into fresh the system would be well flushed?
Or are you lifting (trailering) the boat directly out of salt water with the engine off and putting it into "dry" store on your drive or WHY?
TSP is highly alkaline (PH12), whereas the product itself is slightly acidic (PH6). I imagine the sodium salt *of* tall oil (if that's what they mean) would be a thick, soapy sludge. I'm lurking but sadly I'm not a chemist
There is no pootling to brackish water ...
Boat is towed to Bay.. launched,used, recovered, towed back home, stoed under cover in its boat shed.
I do 2 things regarding 'flush' ... the trailer is immersed in salt water, not very good for brakes ... :-)
However it is fitted with a hub flush system ... immediately after launch & again on recovery .. I connect up a hose to the trailer, this is connected to a 30L plastic container in car which has a 12V pump attached .. I flush though with a mix of water with Salt dissolving additive (X-Salt, SaltAway etc)
Doing this at slipway means hubs are dry by time I get home so not put away wet.
When I get home I connect engine drive up to a set of 'muffs' this is fed by a hose and an in-line slat dissolving additive dispenser. I also spray all metal parts of trailer with this mix.
Been doing this for about 15 years ... but coming to end of current batch of X-Salt .... that company no longer in business, and alternative is £74 for under 3.8 Litre.
As salt is NaCl and inherently soluble, thought I could save some money if I could make up my own 'home brew' mix, of salt dissolver & anti-corrosion mix.
I looked up the tall oil ... and from what I found it is a soap sludge left over wood pulp production. Description is "Tall oil, sodium salt;BLACK LIQUOR SOAP" or "Sodium salt of tall-oil" With a pH of 9 and referred to as 'tall-oil soap'
I must admit to struggling with the concept of a salt (as in sodium chloride) dissolving additive. Sodium chloride disolves very well without any help... Snake oil bell is chiming at least for the brakes that are washed down whilst still wet and a good hose/pressure wash of the trailer on return should be good enough for that.
Inside the engine could be a bit different where the salt could get "baked on", along with silt and algae etc.
The consensus from most 'trailer boaters' is that as soon as you take trailer out of salt water ... salt will start corroding the brake mechanism. Flushing immediately prevents this. All the parts that get dunked in salt water are galvanized on US trailers ... not so in UK. Several of the boat sites rave about Salt dissolving additives ...
I suppose without independent testing difficult to prove.
I think it was that fat bloke who used to run ICI that said chemical companies need to sell their waste products, and I think maybe Tall Oil falls in that category. Soaps have generally been superseded by surfactants, which can be tailor made for the various applications. Given that salt is so freely soluble in water, it's difficult to understand why anything else is required
Quite. Adding (tall oil) soap will improve dirt & oil removal to a degree. Soaps are pretty cheap, but encourage corrosion.
NT
UK Taxes. I don't know which dollar you mean, but it isn't over here.
(Taiwan dollars would make that about 75p, or less than 1 US$, IIRC...)
Andy
The TSP seems to be there as a general purpose cleaner, maybe that is all I need to add to the water.
I did ask for more details ... all I could get was:
"Salt-Away not only provides an inhibitor against salt adhesion but also through some very clever chemical engineering encapsulates, isolates the salt particles, thus suspending them in the acting fluid. The corrosion ability of the salt is halted immediately."
not sure about the word need there
like water does
NT
HomeOwnersHub website is not affiliated with any of the manufacturers or service providers discussed here. All logos and trade names are the property of their respective owners.